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FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby Fez » Sun, 29 Dec 2013 00:37

So, I have data that states, as a rule, if my FPS drops below 60 then the power and depth of my strikes is affected (I start feeling power loss around 58.9). Here's my question, forgive me if its a stupid one: If lower FPS = weakened power, does higher FPS, FPS at say 62.1 = greater power than 60.0?

I ask this because I've heard some people sometimes have FPS that hits 62.1 quite often.


Anyone know?

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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby Robbin92 » Sun, 29 Dec 2013 03:05

No
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby VMoe86 » Sun, 29 Dec 2013 13:07

The input is fixed to 60 Hz in TE, so any difference of FPS from 60.0 will or can lead to a mistiming. That mistiming is the reason for "lack of power".

If the FPS is lower than 60.0 then it means you get to see later what is actually happening in the game. What appears visually to be a flawless shot is recognised as a shot hit "too late". One could compensate this by hitting visually earlier, but that is more difficult to accomplish.

If the FPS is higher than 60.0 you will see earlier what is happening. For hitting a shot that means you will hit "too early" when it visually appears correct and you compensate this by timing in general a bit later (easier to accomplish). One advantage here is that you see earlier what is happening, so you will be quicker on some balls.
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby Robbin92 » Sun, 29 Dec 2013 16:20

Ah that explains EVERYTHING
These top players (top 10 except C4ill) all have a ridiculously high FPS, so that they can see what I'm going to do even before I know that I'm going to do that. :c
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby C4iLL » Sun, 29 Dec 2013 16:32

It's the Illuminati Secret... We joke, but it can create stupid fuss like the one between me and Florian at Roland Garros, which was a direct consequence of this FPS story.
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby VMoe86 » Sun, 29 Dec 2013 16:38

FPS in TE is locked at 60.0, so that no advantages can be gained -- how some can manage to go to 62.1 FPS is a miracle to me (when my FPS starts jumping it has never gone beyond 60.2 FPS). Maybe some players using a display allowing higher refresh rate than 60 Hz and turning off VSync can get there.
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby Richie1308 » Sun, 29 Dec 2013 16:52

Robbin92 wrote:Ah that explains EVERYTHING
These top players (top 10 except C4ill) all have a ridiculously high FPS, so that they can see what I'm going to do even before I know that I'm going to do that. :c


Ahah, that's it ! If it can reassure you (or the contrary), I often have periods with less than 60 fps in my matches. :c
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby Fez » Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:42

REALLY high FPS allows you to see what opponent is wearing at home. And what they're drinking. And even sometimes allows opponent to hear C4ill's mom yelling in the background. :P
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby C4iLL » Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:53

My mom is paid to provide special services to men, I prefer not to talk about that, it's a never ending trauma.
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby Robbin92 » Mon, 30 Dec 2013 17:47

So against which opponents do you experience the problem that is c4ill mum Fez? Isaldor perhaps?
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby inseedious » Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:52

FPS = Ffs Please Stop.

Nothing against you, Fez, but almost all the guys who reply to your threads are indirectly telling you that you're creating too much topics about one single issue issue (easily solvable), even kidding you. Honestly, I'm trying a comeback, waiting for a better update by manutoo, that will surely come with an awesome 1.16 mod. But when reading the forum, hoping for some news, I always find it spammed by you, and my wish to come back lowers a lot.

I know that there currently are some peoples who used to invest lots of time in this game, and now have a lot more free time because the game isn't in a good mood atm, but you created lots of topics about your fps issue, and you still create 1-2 topic per week concerning for some other things. It's not that beautiful.

This is a community open to all-level players, from Grand Slams winners to Futures 1st round losers. But I think that it's mainly aimed to serious players (I repeat, all levels), who collaborate to achieve better mods step by step, giving useful suggestions. If you give away opinions in almost all threads, even if you have to write the first thing that comes from your brain, and open lots of threads, no one will take you seriously. You could open just one thread about your FPS issue, and I usually prefer to use irc instead of forum for issues. And for concerning/suggestions, I suggest you to write only when you have a great and important one, that's what I did. And, in fact, almost all my suggestions, even a lot of time after, have been followed by both our team and even manutoo, cause if they're common and shared among players, they will be successfull.

Finally, instable FPS can lead to some mistiming, but I think there are (or at least have been) players who played at top levels with low hardwares and bad FPS, so you should not think too much about it, but focus on improving your game. And this game is so light that everyone who has a computer less than 6-7 years old can obtain a 59.5-60 constant range of FPS by just lowering details and/or properly setting graphic card/overall hardware. I hope you understand my critic, also Uchiha Muss was spamming a lot, but fortunately he stopped doing it, so you can do it.
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby Fez » Wed, 01 Jan 2014 01:57

Seriously, inseedious, being "taken seriously" isnt a priority for me.

Anyway, I agree my posts have been profuse. But let me inform you that all my noise, has in fact helped a few players who also had FPS issues. So even if my noise helped one person, I regard it as worth it.

Also, your purist view of the purpose of forums is your view to maintain, but allow me to state an important truth to you, however cliche it may be: With freedom there must be tolerance

So, a public forum is a free zone, excluding offensive language etc. To enjoy that freedom you must tolerate some noise, absurd opinions, obnoxious personalities, etc. Basic principle of any "free" society. And inseedious, here's a suggestion: If you don't like my posts so much...um...don't read them. :shock:

In your favor, I can understand why you view me as you do. I have indulged my wandering mind a bit. But...let me ask....do you like film? I do. I like Werner Herzog films alot. In one of his films, the last scene is a chicken dancing around in a glass case....dancing to really silly music. IN art terms, it was "absurdist". I love that scene. My character in itst Universe is a real aberation from my true character. Its an indulgence. Its absurd. Its a silly dance.

If i might fire back a bit of criticism your way inseedious. You tell me nobody will take me seriously. But, funnily, its you, YOU, who take me way too seriously. When you stop doing that, we can be friends. :D

And by the way, my FPS issues were very real and I had a very hard time getting it right, finding out how to get on a level playing field with the community. You say FPS isn't a big deal. Respectfully, inseedious, you speak about that which you do not know. In some matches, it made a HUGE difference. Please broaden your mind. Just because you don't experience it, doesn't mean it isn't real. Think about it. Do you really know what is happening with my PC? Of course you don't. Please don't pretend you do.
I was sincerely frustrated, and any excessive "spamming" was just passion. PASSION. Passion for the game, for the competition. Appreciate that at least. Do you watch sports? Don't you hate the futbol, football, basketball, soccer, and, oh yeah, tennis players that seem to play without passion? Don't you appreciate the ones who care...even perhaps, way too much? If it helps you process my personality, view me as the tour's McEnroe. But, just less skilled.

Having said all of the above, I will make a concerted effort to curtail my posts if it means you'll return to tour inseedious.

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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby Don_ » Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:06

Yesterday I played few sets, I had similar FPS in all of these sets (switching always between 59.5 - 60.2).
Last sets were vs Fez and (except bad condition - lag) it was definitely better "speed" than in previous sets.
Game was like a little faster, super smooth, I feel that my shots because of better timing are more powerfull and easier to make than in previous sets, where I feel more "heavy". My FPS was same in all of these sets, but I guess Fez had 60 FPS.
So I guess it make difference. Last time I wrote, that I don't see big difference when I have 58.8 FPS but it looks that our opponent's FPS also has matter. Too bad that not everything is 100% clear, x-files :D
Maybe Managames could say something more about it ?
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Re: FPS = For Powered Strikes?

Postby Don_ » Tue, 07 Jan 2014 12:39

I had 60.00 FPS for around 1 hour, after fresh reboot. But it was similar to other FPS - sometimes was perfect, sometimes I felt little worse. So like I wrote above - it suggest that also our opponent's FPS has matter.
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