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i use the RB button

almost always
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18%
sometimes
5
23%
rarely
4
18%
never
0
No votes
only when approaching the net
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41%
 
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The RB Button

Postby Garghamell » Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:35

i've seen an increasing number of players (mostly on WT, but here on ITST as well) use it when not approaching the net. it troubles me because i feel it does increase the efficacy of the shot. at least most of the time.

i understand that it can be used for "fast repositioning", although i've never understood its actual use in that sense.
for the most part it seems it's used as i mentioned first.

point is,
if it didn't make a difference then people wouldn't be using it.

and of course i have no issue if it's been used by a serve and volleyer (as frustrating as playing against an 80+ reflex/volley player can be).

in my humble opinion,
using RB button for an approach shot and then not approaching the net falls under the "uncouth/unsportsmanlike/cheesy" category.

what are your opinions?

(and if you could answer the poll honestly, that'd be swell, since it is done anonymously, after all)
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Postby Moralspain » Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:46

I have to admit that i find myself pressing RB many times, i think it's because i use the same button to get back to the middle of the court faster (that's the RB button right?), so if i'm pressing it to get back to the middle and at the same time i have to hit a ball..then yes i will probably have the RB pressed.

This is an honest answer,i mean... i don't play tournaments due to lack of time, i just play exhos for fun, so i'm not trying to take advantage by using that "tactic", it just happens.
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:52

Same here. I don't like doing it, bust some times it does happen. Sometimes is maybe a few times a set. Most times I will follow through and get to net. Trouble is, sometimes the player wont go to net and will freeze in no mans land. In this case I would back up as I no longer have the benefit of a well hit approach shot and will be passed easily.

I do however dislike playing against people who use this as a tactic to gain more angle and "pop" on their shot. I know it helps, they know it helps....There are ways to fight it off....but I still hate playing like that, it kills my illusion :P
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Postby VMoe86 » Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:59

I hate the R1 and L1 buttons (respectively RB and LB on the Xbox360). There shouldn't be a button for inside out shots, there shouldn't be a button for fast-repositioning, serve and volley or approach shots: All these things should be based on movement and nothing else.

However, one has to use them for playing competitively. I actually only use it for getting faster to some shots and serve and volleying. During rallies I prefer to approach without pressing that button.
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:05

LT is also bad if you ask me. I mean, inside-out-one-handed-backhand???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Some players seem to just hold that button. All the time. And yes, somehow it adds "pop" to your shots as well. Likely the developers wanted to give an inside out shots a bit more pop then regular shots, since you will be giving up your positioning to execute it (Inside Out Skill increases the timing window and speeds up the repositioning) but it backfired. Because now you can use the button to get that "pop" even without intending to hit a normal inside out forehand shot it was made for.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:08

Federer hits inside out backhand returns while returning serves in real life lol :lol: ... I use r1 only when attacking the ball
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:15

Ali-Iqb93 wrote:Federer hits inside out backhand returns while returning serves in real life lol :lol: ... I use r1 only when attacking the ball


We were talking mid rallies. ;) And "only when attacking the ball"? :? Don't you mean approaching/attacking the net?
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Postby edlglide » Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:00

I also wish there was a volley modifier -- I know it seems to make sense that it automatically volleys when you are at the net, but the problem is that sometimes the game decides to make you hit a volley off a bounce when you are trying to step into the court and hit a big forehand. It almost always results in you hitting a weak little shot to the middle of the court for an easy point for your opponent.

On the other hand, it would be really annoying to have to hold down a button the entire time you were at net, so I'm not sure what the best solution is. I just know it's INCREDIBLY frustrating to think you're going to step up and put a ball away, only to see your player bend over and hit a tap volley off the bounce.
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:40

djarvik wrote:
Ali-Iqb93 wrote:Federer hits inside out backhand returns while returning serves in real life lol :lol: ... I use r1 only when attacking the ball


We were talking mid rallies. ;) And "only when attacking the ball"? :? Don't you mean approaching/attacking the net?
. Nah by attacking I mean when sometimes my opponent hit a weak ball and I want to hit a powerful shot while moving towards the net..I used to hold r1 button all the time some months ago. But zooloo told me that it's kind of cheesy so I stopped holding it.. And then I learned control shots. I didn't feel any need of r1 button after learning control shots.. The most annoying thing of r1 button is the r1 button serve.. I always get confused when my opponent serves using r1. Confuses the hell out of me that whether my opponent will come to net or not.. That is the most cheesy part of r1 :D
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Postby SlicerITST » Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:56

Moralspain wrote:I have to admit that i find myself pressing RB many times, i think it's because i use the same button to get back to the middle of the court faster (that's the RB button right?), so if i'm pressing it to get back to the middle and at the same time i have to hit a ball..then yes i will probably have the RB pressed.

This is an honest answer,i mean... i don't play tournaments due to lack of time, i just play exhos for fun, so i'm not trying to take advantage by using that "tactic", it just happens.


Isnt using the RB to reposition yourself quicker from TS3? I might be way off here. :lol:
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Postby Tamthewasp » Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:24

I use it 2 run faster. Not hit shots.
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Postby Rob ITST » Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:38

djarvik wrote:LT is also bad if you ask me. I mean, inside-out-one-handed-backhand???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Some players seem to just hold that button. All the time. And yes, somehow it adds "pop" to your shots as well. Likely the developers wanted to give an inside out shots a bit more pop then regular shots, since you will be giving up your positioning to execute it (Inside Out Skill increases the timing window and speeds up the repositioning) but it backfired. Because now you can use the button to get that "pop" even without intending to hit a normal inside out forehand shot it was made for.


They should have made the skill "Inside Out Forehand Master". Actually, a lot of skills should be like that - "Running Forehand Expert" instead of Reach Swings Expert.

I'm guilty of hitting a few inside out backhands, but anyone who plays against me knows it certainly is no benefit to me (93 FH, 56 BH).
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Postby Ex_storma » Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:17

I used to hold down r1 on most shots during a rally but today I agree with you that its indeed a cheap way of playing a shot with a better angle. Today i simply dont do it unless i intend to go to the net
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Postby VillaJ100 » Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:40

Rob ITST wrote:
djarvik wrote:LT is also bad if you ask me. I mean, inside-out-one-handed-backhand???? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Some players seem to just hold that button. All the time. And yes, somehow it adds "pop" to your shots as well. Likely the developers wanted to give an inside out shots a bit more pop then regular shots, since you will be giving up your positioning to execute it (Inside Out Skill increases the timing window and speeds up the repositioning) but it backfired. Because now you can use the button to get that "pop" even without intending to hit a normal inside out forehand shot it was made for.


They should have made the skill "Inside Out Forehand Master". Actually, a lot of skills should be like that - "Running Forehand Expert" instead of Reach Swings Expert.

I'm guilty of hitting a few inside out backhands, but anyone who plays against me knows it certainly is no benefit to me (93 FH, 56 BH).


Sampras would definitely have the running forehand skill!
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