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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Sat, 28 May 2011 01:03

LOL I know........... :(
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Postby Boruzze » Sat, 28 May 2011 07:40

edlglide wrote:My S&V female player is already in the quarters at the French Open here -- just made up a male S&V to use because I enjoy it and I've gotten pretty good.


ahhhh, that was so frustrating playing you :(
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Postby mecir72 » Sat, 28 May 2011 20:07

Whats the twirl volley?
I dont like how baseliners can get the ball on your feet even when you are on top of the net
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Postby Rob ITST » Sat, 28 May 2011 21:41

I think they mean when you get a backhand volley that is barely reachable, and your guy sort of falls over and spins around as he hits it.

And yeah, it does seem that balls can get impossibly low when you're close to the net.

Honestly though, and I play a lot of serve and volley, I chalk up everything to my own mistakes. Returns too good? My serve wasn't good enough. Passes to good? My first volley wasn't good enough. If you mix up your serves, and hit them well, you can get in good position for almost every first volley. If you're in good position for a volley, you can hit a winner, force a weak pass, or draw an error. You just have to execute to near perfection.
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Postby edlglide » Sat, 28 May 2011 23:59

Rob ITST wrote:I think they mean when you get a backhand volley that is barely reachable, and your guy sort of falls over and spins around as he hits it.


Yeah, that's the twirl volley -- my problem isn't the animation itself, because it makes sense for that to happen if you're barely reaching out for a backhand volley. My problem is that it happens too often; sometimes you will be in good position with no reason for your player to make that move and then they make it anyways and you lose the point.
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Postby Rob ITST » Sun, 29 May 2011 02:49

I think when it happens, you can usually avoid it by moving just one step closer to the ball. Also, if you have high volley stats (or maybe you need Spectacular Volleys, because I've done it with Sampras) you can still put the ball away, even when you do the "twirl".
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Postby edlglide » Sun, 29 May 2011 04:26

Rob ITST wrote:I think when it happens, you can usually avoid it by moving just one step closer to the ball. Also, if you have high volley stats (or maybe you need Spectacular Volleys, because I've done it with Sampras) you can still put the ball away, even when you do the "twirl".


I think it may be the spectacular volleys skill, because I've done it with Sampras too...but both my created S&V players have a higher volley skill than Sampras, and they don't put it away 90% of the time when they make that move.

The spectacular volley skill also unlocks some extra animations though....I've seen a few volley animations with that skill that I have NEVER seen without the skill, despite playing literally hundreds of games.
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Postby Rob ITST » Sun, 29 May 2011 05:38

I wouldn't be surprised if pros had unique animations. TS1 had this with a few pros (Hewitt's jumping backhand was probably the most well known). I've noticed that when you hit the tweener with Federer, some animation takes over, and I've hit Sampras' slam dunk overhead that I doubt is possible with any custom character or other pro.

And actually, I don't even think the pro's stats and skills are necessarily entirely accurate. In other words, if you created a character with the same stats/skills/height/weight/etc, I don't think they would play the same. Sampras seems to me like he has more power than his stats suggest, especially on flat shots; Nadal seems to hit with more topspin than anyone else....
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Sun, 29 May 2011 18:52

Rob ITST wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if pros had unique animations. TS1 had this with a few pros (Hewitt's jumping backhand was probably the most well known). I've noticed that when you hit the tweener with Federer, some animation takes over, and I've hit Sampras' slam dunk overhead that I doubt is possible with any custom character or other pro.

And actually, I don't even think the pro's stats and skills are necessarily entirely accurate. In other words, if you created a character with the same stats/skills/height/weight/etc, I don't think they would play the same. Sampras seems to me like he has more power than his stats suggest, especially on flat shots; Nadal seems to hit with more topspin than anyone else....
i have hit the slam dunk with my player you have to time it though i feel with many shots in this game certain animations for shots need you to be in the correct position and timing i noticed this with my approach shots and bh half volleys
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Postby edlglide » Tue, 31 May 2011 19:19

The worst part about playing S&V is that a little bit of lag can completely kill you, because you have to have such good timing when you're up at the net or the ball just goes right past you. Obviously lag effects any match, but S&V requires you to have quick reflexes on the volleys and lag can just make it impossible to play that style.

Although I'm much better at S&V than anything else, so I still put up a better fight even with lag than I do trying to play another style.
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Postby pt916 » Wed, 01 Jun 2011 12:57

Hello everyone,
Just go the game (still a noob) and already enjoying it so far. Planning to creat my player to this type of build. I'm still on level 6 but slowly working my way up there. Any other tips for a good SV type of player especially for sim? Also can't wait to join the tourneys (and get my a** kicked). More power to this site you guys are all doing a good job of maintaining it. You can also add me my PSN id: pt916.

Thanks!
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Postby Boruzze » Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:54

edlglide wrote:The worst part about playing S&V is that a little bit of lag can completely kill you, because you have to have such good timing when you're up at the net or the ball just goes right past you. Obviously lag effects any match, but S&V requires you to have quick reflexes on the volleys and lag can just make it impossible to play that style.

Although I'm much better at S&V than anything else, so I still put up a better fight even with lag than I do trying to play another style.


Man ur so right...
Yesterday I played a WT match with my S&V..i wouldof definetly beaten my opponent but I had sooo fkin many "too lates" on the net cuz of lag, it was just impossible :(
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Postby Rob ITST » Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:21

I can get used to the timing in lag - the worst part is when your player stops halfway to the net while the connection catches up.

My biggest nightmare is playing 2K Open against a Nadal in lag. Nadal is tough enough because he has good speed/strokes, but when he teleports and his reach swing skill kicks in, you get a much harder pass than you expected.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:03

Rob ITST wrote:I can get used to the timing in lag - the worst part is when your player stops halfway to the net while the connection catches up.

My biggest nightmare is playing 2K Open against a Nadal in lag. Nadal is tough enough because he has good speed/strokes, but when he teleports and his reach swing skill kicks in, you get a much harder pass than you expected.



i was playing a match yesterday in the rule test tournament 2 using sv 15 dfb 5 aja golakov volley shot artist and monster defense against my opponent's axel mingnolet servestick berserker brutal volley. I dominated the first set 6-1 but my opponent upped the pace and got better at passing me overpowered me in the next two sets, it's just so shocking to see a match do a full 360 on you, one moment your in full control the next you have lost it. what do you do when you opponent starts getting looks at passes, i mean i mix up the serve but he got at passing me so what do you suggest?.
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Postby edlglide » Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:13

supinesmokey13 wrote:
Rob ITST wrote:I can get used to the timing in lag - the worst part is when your player stops halfway to the net while the connection catches up.


You're right -- this is the worst part. You can get stuck in no man's land pretty easily trying to charge the net when there's lag, and then you've just got no chance unless your opponent really messes up.
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