red attributes... Poll

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how many red Attributes should be allowed ?

Poll ended at Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:03

i only need 1 red attribute
17
38%
2 red attributes and i´m fine
15
33%
i like 3 red attributes
6
13%
i wanna see blood with 4 red attributes
7
16%
 
Total votes : 45

Postby SoundfSilence » Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:48

Rob ITST wrote:It makes no sense to limit the number of red stats. Then people would just use 89 instead of 90. That's my only comment on this. :wink:


True, but if you increase the minimum stat (to 55 in this example), this is probably the most stacked setups you can get:

FH 90
BH 89
SE 57
RE 55
VO 55
PO 89
SP 70
ST 55
= 560

With the above stats, 'realistic' setups should be able to cope better... IMO

Just an idea, maybe raising the minimum stat could help.
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Re: saison

Postby Hamburgerboy27 » Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:57

callofduty44 wrote:
Hamburgerboy27 wrote:Another Question from me...who long goes this saison???
To the summer than is end off saison??? :?:
Or the full year? :?:
I think this is a very great saison by ts3 with many greats players and the rules is very good...for this saison!!!
But i hope we play in the NEXT saison with yet "realistic new rules"...
I sure than brings TS3 any more fun for all player this want play realistic tennis... :wink:


tour goes till december. after masters cup(where play best 8 players of the year.


Thank you!I was not sure if we play here 1 ITST saison in 1year or 2 ITST saison in 1 year :roll: :wink:
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Postby Anteros15 » Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:12

ANILTJE, the poll is how many red stats you have. I answered truthfully saying I have 1 because I do. Just because I said that doesn't mean I was trying to act like I don't have a powerful setup. Don't jump on me for responding to a poll.
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Postby ANILTJE » Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:15

Anteros15 wrote:ANILTJE, the poll is how many red stats you have. I answered truthfully saying I have 1 because I do. Just because I said that doesn't mean I was trying to act like I don't have a powerful setup. Don't jump on me for responding to a poll.


Oh no. I didn't mean that at all .Sorry.

You must have mistunderstood. I only wanted to say that having one stats on 90 wouldn't make much difference as you can put other stats very close to 90. Like Rob said .

It was not ment as an attack to anyone. Just as an example . Sorry for that.
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Postby Aletheides » Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:06

In my opinion, limiting the ppa (points per attribute) to any level makes a slow game even slower. Just compare it to the speed of TS2, for example^^

I agree that it is somehow boring to play a 4x100 player in WT. I am a very defensive player, and still manage to get most of the shots of those ball bashers. It only seems so easy for them to pull off the good strokes.
In WT, I use a player with 100 pow as the only 100, and 92 fh 90 bh to be able to cope with the 4x100ers. Both fh and bh are red, but there is a remarkable difference between them. The ITST games would ,using such a colour rule, benefit from possible better and harder shots...
And with a colour rule, it should be possible to allocate just 30 ! ppa. If a player virtually NEVER plays volleys and never trains them, it should be ok to put 30 on volley....

So, my vote is: pro colour rule (at least 2, better 3 reds), if the new rule replaces the 90/40 ppa rule altogether.
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:48

I think the biggest problem is that people are unwilling to try.

There is a learning curve, to overcome that weaker wing, or that low power, or high volley skill.

I have seen many guys it WT and ITST that have weaker wings, but they just hit from that side as thou it is not weak, try to play cross to your stronger side.... they don't strategize, they really play a "better" version of an old ping pong game. etc...

I have also seen players that use low power/high speed/stamina. And most of them try to finish the point too early. Or risk return the serve when the server is way in red, and miss....giving a breather to server. etc...

I have seen players with decent allocation of points for volley, just to never come to net!!! WHY???? etc....

And my favorite and most common, power guys that just don't play or know tennis at all. In their mind all that is important is power, more power and .....I will try to be original here....POWER! lol Hitting every shot hard into the court...."so what if you 2 feet away, so you close enough to reach, but I will hit it so hard, that your raquet will break if you try to answer". etc...


Ladies and gentlemen, these are examples of a great game, fun, entertaining. But please.....don't call it Tennis, it just ain't!!!!

Stop hiding behind the stats, come out of the closet!

I am not saying we should, change the rules, well maybe I am, LOL, I am saying try and play a tennis match, or something that is close to it.... it is a very entertaining game if fact, the original Concept that makes you follow the ATP and that made you go out and buy a tennis video game!

I am done!
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P.S. Yes I know it is just a video game, but when I bought it, when I was waiting for it to come out...what appealed to me THE MOST about TS3, was the fact that THIS GAME will be the closest to reality, this game will be the true tennis sim...it was hipped as such and it delivered! ...with its problems, but it did deliver! Enjoy it.

Don't try to tell me you bought this game Hoping it will be just another arcade tennis.
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Postby ANILTJE » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:11

hear hear :-)
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Postby ktug89 » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:39

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Postby emate007 » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:53

djarvik wrote:I think the biggest problem is that people are unwilling to try.

I have seen players with decent allocation of points for volley, just to never come to net!!! WHY???? etc....


Agreed wholeheartedly on the first point, and I call blasphemy on anyone not putting their volley points to good use! It's the coolest part of the game and the best I've ever seen volleying executed in a game(minus the lame overhead glitches)!!!
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Postby djarvik » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:18

:oops:
That was a drunk side of me :oops:

Warning to myself: don't drink and post! Tends to be too long!

:lol:

Altho now reading, it makes sence to me when I am sober as well!

cheers!
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Postby Chederer » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:51

why dont we say for next season---minimum 70 on stamina and max 2 reds? i think that would be really cool 1 red is pushing it---we need to enforce the 70 on stamina though!!!!
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Postby VillaJ100 » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:48

i think all stats should be allowed 40-90 but a blanket limit of 70-75 on power. this would create different play styles still, people wont be blown away by power and it wouldnt exactly give power guys much to moan about, if you have 90 on groundstrokes you will still get plenty power on your shots.
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Postby MisterGregory42 » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:04

djarvik wrote:I have seen many guys it WT and ITST that have weaker wings, but they just hit from that side as thou it is not weak, try to play cross to your stronger side.... they don't strategize, they really play a "better" version of an old ping pong game. etc...


Man, I'm not afraid to admit that I know next to nothing about tennis strategy and you just taught me something there. Then again, maybe I already knew that and I had just forgotten. In any event, thanks for reminding me. :)

And I agree with you - I think plenty of people are unwilling to let go of their stacked setups simply because that's what produces the easiest wins. It makes perfect sense...I just don't like it. :(
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Postby kyuuji » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:16

I only need 1, so I choose 1.
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:34

when i look to the votes i see 4 different tours.
i do a fault.that are not 4 different tours. i forget the full sim tour without risk and a 100 free setup tour

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