Top Spin 4?

[Rob ITST]

- Top Spin 3 TV, (ala VT3) to be able to watch matches in progress or recently played.
- Ranked doubles!
- Make stamina count more.
- Make releasing button early into an error.
- Make serving with sick only with smaller "window" to get more error on serve and make people take pace off the second serve.

I think all of those (except the stick serves only) fit into the rest of the things I mentioned. Do you agree?

[djarvik]

Yes.

Agreed.


....hmmmm I really liked that TV thingy on VT3. I think for TS series it is vital, it has so much positives! .... game play is actually good now, minor tweaks are needed, but the TV feature will bring ITST to the next level!

.... imagine being able to watch the AusieOpen Final with Anil????

Great!!!

edit: or finally putting the end to Alleged cheesy play and complains!
This will be a great tool for the hosts and make them so much more efficient!

[Rob ITST]

Yep, TS4-TV would be great. Not only for watching great matches, but for allowing hosts to view matches where someone is accused of cheesy play. I remember doing that a few times on VT3.

So keep the ideas coming - especially the ones that bennefit all of us here. Then after we have a nice simple list of requests, maybe we can all post them.

And thanks to everyone who mentions ITST. I think it's a long shot to have them incorporate us into the games, but it doesn't hurt to suggest it.

[Sherlock 117]

It helps if you try and sell it to them that working with the ITST will also help them out, hence the enticing projection I mentioned in my post there

[venom400]

I posted some suggestions but :

-Option to select your grip , a western grip gives you more spin , a eastern gives you better slice and volleys, etc...

-make the raquet type give you different attributes , with stats showing so buying a raquet makes a tactical difference not just for looks .

-take out risk shots and just allow people to use strategy to win games not pressing more buttons a must have , if you can move your oponent around then you can win .

-make a player with a lot of power use up stamina faster , the more tired they are the more errors they make , make it so playing on the day is more tiring than night , trow in wind element ,and put physics that make the ball fly different depending on the heat of the day (this would encourage better wall type templates with little power and lots of durabilty).

-able to select raquet's string tension and type of strings , make it so raquets can pop in the middle of a point as a random occurance .

-(not my idea) add crowd effect were people would uuuh and aaah on nice points and start screaming on important ones or long rallies , or right before serving for the match , set ,etc ...

-Make balls wear out with use and trow in the element of using new balls in between sets like they do in real life , a newer ball bounces more and travels faster , a deader ball stays in the court more and bounces less .

-challenge system , make the computer randomly make line call errors .

-better support for doubles games , like playing doubles with a team mate somewere else .and two oponents somewere else too , with random or preset partner setup.'

thats it

[Coolhand Texas]

Venom your suggestions are well thought out. I like all but two of them.

The idea of having your raquet string pop, not so sure about, what if its an important point and your racquet string pops and u lose the point.

Also the computer making random errors, i dont like, i know u would have the right to challenge it, but still i think its risky, unless u have an unlimited amount of challenges, then its ok.

Very nice tips

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

hope 2k integrate some of this good proposals i like the idear that the itst community completly give them a list with idears and things what help to make the game better

[venom400]

Venom your suggestions are well thought out. I like all but two of them.

The idea of having your raquet string pop, not so sure about, what if its an important point and your racquet string pops and u lose the point.

Also the computer making random errors, i dont like, i know u would have the right to challenge it, but still i think its risky, unless u have an unlimited amount of challenges, then its ok.

Very nice tips

The raquet poping in the middle of the point won't cost you , but it would make the raquet a wee less powerfull , changing raquets between games can be a good strategic point , this would encourage having extra raquets of the same type ,you can trash this idea if you like...

But the compute making random errors I think it's a cool idea , it would add excitment to challenging a call , and no you can't make it unlimited because your oponent would challenge all the calls and it would slow down the game , but the random making the wrong calls would mean that if you saw it in and is in fact out would make it fun , exciting and would bring a new element to the game.

[venom400]

Another idea that I posted before :

-alocate a maximum number of points to distribute between forehand and backhand so you can't max out both , if you want good backhand and forehand then you go 50/50 , if you want a killer forehand at the cost of a weaker backhand then you can go 80/20 , and the other way around , this would add a new depth of strategy to the game so you can attack an oponent with a very good forehand and keep it on his backhand , forcing him to try to run around his backahnd to hit that killer forehand like roger does.

[Rob ITST]

I like most of your ideas Venom, but I think it's a bit much. Maybe a little too detailed for someone who might not actually play real tennis.

The last one you mentioned should be covered by the "More balanced character setups", but I added the part about having a weaker side.

And I'm like Coolhand when it comes to the bad calls - one of the few things better about video game tennis is that all calls are correct. Imagine how ticked off you'd be if you lost a game, set, or even a match because you thought you got a bad call.

[AMAZING ZIZOU]

I guess it actually depends on if they want to make a real tennis simulation or just a tennis game.
The idea of challenging some judges mistakes sounds exiting but not for a standart tennis game.

I'm affraid 2K is a capitalist entreprise who must cell as much game as possible...then it has to please the maximum number of players. Consequently, those "funky" details will unfortunately never see the light.

[venom400]

I like most of your ideas Venom, but I think it's a bit much. Maybe a little too detailed for someone who might not actually play real tennis.

The last one you mentioned should be covered by the "More balanced character setups", but I added the part about having a weaker side.

And I'm like Coolhand when it comes to the bad calls - one of the few things better about video game tennis is that all calls are correct. Imagine how ticked off you'd be if you lost a game, set, or even a match because you thought you got a bad call.

Bad calls are part of real tennis unfortunately , both recreational and professional , the cool part is that as long as you are right about a bad call you can challenge it and keep your challenges as long as you are always right .

line bad calls , in my opinion , would bring one of the most frustrating and (with challenges) truly rewarding parts of tennis .

Also imagine if you win your match due to a bad line call but your oponent loses because he used up all his challenges.

Honestly I think that , out of all my ideas , this one would truly bring the true feeling of tennis that comes with bad line calls and the rewarding feeling to know that you were right when the challenge awards you the point.

This bad calls would happend at a low percentage to keep the game fluid and not too frustrating with the calls and challenges.

[SoundfSilence]

Hi all,

New to the board here. Some great ideas, I particularly like ability to spectate a match. Also better replay, with options.

I haven't played the game long enough to comment on the actual gameplay, but it has been annoying to play 100fh/bh/power guys, and there should be some solution to solve this.

The graphics are great and player animinations. However, what annoys me a bit is why do the players have to look so bulky? (like Nadal, Ancic, and in general).

More professional players... even if it's not possible to obtain licences, is it not possible to make look a likes (just like games as ProEvo etc).

More hairstyles on create a character (which normal people would have!). More clothes (which tennis players wear). Ability to see what the player you've created would look like during gameplay (rather than having created him, and finding out they look too bulky LOL). Option to set countries where the tennis player's from.

Having a practice mode, where you can use character (since timing's different for each...), rather than having to use the single tutorial guy.

Shots should be able to hit the lines... I know people have mentioned line calls, but I don't think I've seen a winner that hit the lines! Can someone confirm if this is possible?

Cheers

[BalkanPower]

I posted some things as well, but for me the most important aspect is to custimize your online matches more....and with that I mostly mean: Make it possible to enable/disable risk shots. This way both the riskers and non riskers can play the gametype they want:)

[venom400]

Hi all,

New to the board here. Some great ideas, I particularly like ability to spectate a match. Also better replay, with options.


The graphics are great and player animinations. However, what annoys me a bit is why do the players have to look so bulky? (like Nadal, Ancic, and in general).

More professional players... even if it's not possible to obtain licences, is it not possible to make look a likes (just like games as ProEvo etc).


Cheers

There is an easy cheap way to fix this but I don't know why 2K sports won't implement it .

Just allow your created players to play in the carrier mode , I'm sure people would create real life player clones in no time and all you would have to do is go to a (fan created) website were you could upload and download created players along with the option to rate and comment on creations to filter to the best look alikes and "stat" alikes .

This would be extremely cheap to the developers since the players can't charge for a created players since it is basicly someone else's work .