Is Sim sucessful so far?

[DennieFR1908]

Dennie, you not giving any feedback on this..... What setups you think are not included in SIM and should be?

Which style you are "missing" and want to choose?

Well it's just my opinion but I don't fully understand the logic behind these setups.

For example why is nakamura an DFB and Lopez and AB? The way I see it you can set up the stats in different classes 1 being the highest stats and 4 the lowest, the numbers under here are the strength of the classes:

---------DB----OB------AB------SV
FH/BH---1-----3-------2-------4
SRV------4-----1-------2-------1
VOL------4-----4-------3-------1
PWR-----3-----1-------2-------4
STA------1-----2-------2-------3
SPE------1-----4-------2-------2
REF------3-----3-------2-------1

This should be the basic of these types of play, as you see allround baseliners are the most balanced setups, where the other 3 are very specialistic. Creating 4 different setups for each style so you can pick whatever style you might wan't, I created an example of AB at the end of this message so you know what I mean: I'm quick at it so don't worry I don't mind doing it for nothing But anyway here you see a difference between an DFB and an AB and I think this setups will attract people more than the curent ones, there also won't be any mutants which will only improve populartity of the tour.

In my opinion attractive setups is a very important part in letting the tour grow and make it more popular becouse people can relate themselves with them. Things like 52 BH for an allround baseliner is not how it works, you completely change the game for it and for what reason? Especially with this new update where it has become harder to make the point, a 52 BH would be deadly. People play the ball there every time they are in trouble. OFB are the only one who should have like 78 fh and 62 bh, where DFB should have the lowest power and highest strikes and AB has this very balanced, it would mean allround baseliners will be the most effective just like in real life and OFB and DFB will be easier to play with.

Here is the example of how AB would be nice

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52 ... ample.png/

[djarvik]

Where are the weaknesses? All your players have orange strokes. This will make exploiting a weakness near impossible. Most rallies and points will look exactly the same and will generate very few unforced or fores errors.

I think you are really looking for a regular tour here

SIM is all about weakness. We didn't make setups attractive on their own, they are attractive within its roster.

Also, your players have two skills, making it too much about the skill. If anything, we want to minimize the impact of skills on the game.

BTW - AA, OB, DB and SV are only meant as guidelines, you are free to use any player and use in in a style you see him fit.

With all due respect, and believe me, I do appreciate the effort (and may ask for your services later), you are totally off mark of what the SIM tour is intended to be. I now understand why you don't enjoy it. It is simply not what you are looking for, what you are looking fore is more in-line with our regular tour

[DennieFR1908]

I'm probably mistaking what SIM tour should be like indeed. I tought it was generally becouse of balancing the tour, but I also understand you want to create real life situations. In a way I am also trying to do this becouse these allround setups are like djokovic'. Altough I'm not sure if you will get this effect by making one very low stroke, why not keep it at 60+? I mean 52 is a little to low for an allround baseliner if you ask me.

I also understand your point of the 2 special skills, but in a way it's also cool, becouse the special skills should be selected by there style of play, allround players with high reflexes have good shot counters and returns for example, defensive players have reach swings or longer better etc, these kind of things can also add another level to the game, becouse you have to master your own setup and compete with other very strong, but also balanced setups.

This tour would also be all about weaknesses, but in my opinion you shouldn't search it in the stats list, but by competing your opponent, try to read him, and find the things he doesn't like, I like the mind games, which reminds me of real tennis. I think to get to the top in this kind of tour it would be all about your own gaming- and mind skills since everyone can master his own player style. Wasn't it you who once said there shouldn't be any stats and it would just depend on your own abilitys? In a way this is like that, except you have to choose your type of play, and you receive the skills who belong to this style.

I don't agree every ralley would be the same, every ralley would very much be different, only matches where all the ralleys are the same for me is against high power players, who keep hitting the ball flat like a bunch of zombies, and I think with this SIM tour you will also get a pattern of play, like I said in hard situations they will always try to find your weak side, altough you can anticipate good from it making a quick inside out shot it will still happen alot.

It's indeed not the perfect tour for me, and I would very much like to see something which could be like what I just showed you, altough I don't think it's like the regular tour, becouse on the regular tour it's badly enough very hard to compete with these setups and a tour like this should be with very balanced setups just like the SIM tour.

Oh and it's not like I don't enjoy SIM, I do like it, especially becouse it's well balanced, you won't find any mutants, but also becouse I like the stats of some of the setups pretty much, only thing I would love to see slightly different are the weaker strokes increased to at least 60, but it's not like I'm not going to check this tour out, I surely will. And you can always ask for my services, I like to lend a hand in improving this game.

[edlglide]

I think it's much better with players having a wing in the 50s -- especially since if you time it perfectly you can still hit multiple winners off that side. I played someone earlier with a 57 backhand and he was still hitting shots short cross court right on the line from the baseline, because he had the timing perfect.

Basically the way you are able to create regular players end up being better than almost all the pros -- the all-arounder I use for the regular tour is better than Federer. His FH isn't quite as lethal, but I think he's rated better than Federer at every single other stat, and his FH is still in the 80s.

In my opinion, the game really doesn't work properly with the way you are able to create players. Guys with both wings in the 80s, or serve and power both 90+ and also wings in the 70s, breaks the game engine. It feels like it's just not designed to have players who are that good at basically every rating. You'd think they would have noticed this, but (at least in my opinion) the game plays far more realistically with the SIM players and with the pros.

[RainingAmoeba79]

Dennie:


I understand, but I do believe Djokovic is a BIT overpowered ATM, dont ya think?

But seriously, those chars are wayyyyyy too overpowered. If you want a strong baseliner with orange on both sides, we just released a DB with that, Grissom. He is quite djoko like.

[DennieFR1908]

lol ofcourse these setups are overpowered for this sim tour, that was not the point

[ray237]

Yeah i think sim is very good, cause the regular tour bans some ridiculous setups, but still let the players choose others that aren't so much fair.
With sim all setups are very balanced, and the matches are a lot more realistic. It's still just a game, but with sim tour you can think tactics a bit similar to the real tennis ones.

[kiplaird]

just played my first match and very good. blasted though the 1st set using power but the stamina kicked in and i suffered lol.. making a very fair and enjoyable experience. Hope to play more soon.

[DennieFR1908]

The SIM tour is all about tactical play, I love that. It just proves to me that in regular tour power players are able to win matches only by keep hitting easy shots over and over again, absolutely NO tactical play required.

If your strikas are a 10 and your tactacil play a 4, just play with power players and you will probably be able to beat me it's to bad, there is no satisfaction for me in this. I'm thinking about only playing in the SIM tour from now on dispite the little things I don't like.