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Postby Moralspain » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:55

last night i decided to play a few WT matches again, and it's still the biggest piece of crap i've seen in my life, and most guys playing there are lamers who only try to cheat over and over again, it's a **** disgrace, that behavior playing a video game is difficult to understand, call me crazy but if you buy a tennis game it should be because you like tennis, same way if you buy the "F1 2012" it's because you like the formula 1 and the race cars, if not, why buy them?, well i suppose logical thinking doesn't match with the world of console gamers, it's actually my fault for giving all these lamers a vote of confidence, my bad.

When i started playing video games long time ago, there were no online gaming, you just played with your brother, few friends. Videogames were 100% entertainment now with the online (which is great, don't misunderstand me) it's 100% competition, and i don't fit well there. I'm a man from another time haha.

Myself and rest of the ITST team will do our best to keep ITST away from that crap.


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Postby maximo » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:02

emate007 wrote:
maximo wrote:i can be horrible (probably the worst ps3 player), but TS4 will continue being an arcade game with infinities rallies and without UE.


I call BS. I am clearly the worst, and will defend my title with zeal.
I propose a 5 set match, whoever wins more points loses.
Sorry, but that title is mine, you'll have to fight hard if u want it.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:16

MisterGregory42 wrote:It's early, but as of right now I'm not crazy about the new update.

As someone else pointed out, defensive slices are now essentially useless. They were supposedly nerfed so people wouldn't use them as offensive weapons, but now the only way to hit a good slice is if you're in a good offensive position. Anything else is going to be a shank that will be easily put away.

In fact, in general that's my problem with the update. It's all about offense now. I feel like the game rewards you too much for being in good position and punishes you too much for being in bad position. It helps tremendously with responding to drop shots, but so far that's about the only positive I can take from it



Serve and return feels a little strange. Your position now has to be absolutely perfect, but if it is, you'll hit an amazing return. If it's even slightly off, you've pretty much lost the point. I suppose the serve had to be strengthened again since before this update you could hit great returns no matter what. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.

.i disagree i love the patch 100 power is now ineffective a lot of balls they use reach they cant anymore. as for defending maybe its were you place you slice the slice on defense is still ok .

so if the update rewards you for being in a good position then in order to defend well you have to be in a position to hit an effective defensive shot defending has not been a problem for me i see more errors and shot selection is more important serving and return has been good for me
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:23

Try Good or Perfect timed control slices. These are your defensive slices. Any charged slice that you will hit on the run will be short for the most part.
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Postby ANILTJE » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:07

So far I think the baseline rallies are really improved. The return is too powerful now. I am a bad returner I was in TS3 and also in TS4. But right now I do get some very strong returns.

Another thing I'm bad at is the volley game. But I do rather well . Those are bad signs lol.

I think they need to make serving harder or make it easier to hit a serve out . But returning should be harder as well.

I think S&V will a little too much. Or running to the net in general.
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Postby Cro Morgan » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:24

ANILTJE wrote:I am a bad returner I was in TS3 and also in TS4. But right now I do get some very strong returns.


ANILTJE wrote:Another thing I'm bad at is the volley game. But I do rather well .



Maybe you're just improving. Ever think of that. :) :wink:

Moralspain wrote:last night i decided to play a few WT matches again, and it's still the biggest piece of crap i've seen in my life, and most guys playing there are lamers who only try to cheat over and over again, it's a **** disgrace, that behavior playing a video game is difficult to understand, call me crazy but if you buy a tennis game it should be because you like tennis, same way if you buy the "F1 2012" it's because you like the formula 1 and the race cars, if not, why buy them?, well i suppose logical thinking doesn't match with the world of console gamers, it's actually my fault for giving all these lamers a vote of confidence, my bad.

When i started playing video games long time ago, there were no online gaming, you just played with your brother, few friends. Videogames were 100% entertainment now with the online (which is great, don't misunderstand me) it's 100% competition, and i don't fit well there. I'm a man from another time haha.

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Postby ANILTJE » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:35

No not really.I never play. I started playing before yesterday again. Cause I heard of the patch. My returns were crap. Today they work.
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:58

I truly believe that returns seem easy because of players inability to actually serve well. I don't know why, but majority of players on TS4 are content with simply putting their serve in play and starting a rally.

It is very easy to serve in TS4 with very little direction. But it is rather hard to actually hit the lines. So people just don't want to bother learning....no idea why.

....and if you think it is hard to hit lines consistently - play TS3. It is twice as hard to give any sort of direction to the serve. Yet after about a year, we had players serving in 90% on the line and winning TONS of tie breaks. Look up the history.

So I say take the time to learn to serve and hit the lines, find markers in player animation on where to hold and release your buttons. You don't need to have a high serve rating to serve well.
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Postby MisterGregory42 » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:59

ANILTJE wrote:So far I think the baseline rallies are really improved. The return is too powerful now. I am a bad returner I was in TS3 and also in TS4. But right now I do get some very strong returns.

Another thing I'm bad at is the volley game. But I do rather well . Those are bad signs lol.

I think they need to make serving harder or make it easier to hit a serve out . But returning should be harder as well.

I think S&V will a little too much. Or running to the net in general.


Yeah, I can definitely see net rushing becoming a much more effective tactic, at least until people get a better feel for things post-update. You can do stuff at the net now that you could only dream of doing before the update. All you have to do is force your player into position and time your shot decently well. The tweaked stamina system should at least keep S & V players in check in longer matches, though.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:06

djarvik wrote:I truly believe that returns seem easy because of players inability to actually serve well. I don't know why, but majority of players on TS4 are content with simply putting their serve in play and starting a rally.

It is very easy to serve in TS4 with very little direction. But it is rather hard to actually hit the lines. So people just don't want to bother learning....no idea why.

....and if you think it is hard to hit lines consistently - play TS3. It is twice as hard to give any sort of direction to the serve. Yet after about a year, we had players serving in 90% on the line and winning TONS of tie breaks. Look up the history.

So I say take the time to learn to serve and hit the lines, find markers in player animation on where to hold and release your buttons. You don't need to have a high serve rating to serve well.
i totally agree with you and its because of the high serve and power rating since most 98/98 guys hit flat 90% of the time you can slice the return in all the time.

yet if you mix up the serves you will notice they miss more returns now and you can get them to shank returns, the kicker out wide is a good change up and works well and when you mix up you serves you will notice you win more points on serve that some who just hits flat.
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Postby OuiMr BersonBANNED » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:07

**** this game is now too easy.
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Postby supinesmokey13 » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:08

ANILTJE wrote:No not really.I never play. I started playing before yesterday again. Cause I heard of the patch. My returns were crap. Today they work.
in regards to your volleys your probably playing guys who dont not how to pass effectively trust me if your not good at net and play a good player they will punish you
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Postby KDZaster » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:58

MisterGregory42 wrote:It's early, but as of right now I'm not crazy about the new update.

Serve and return feels a little strange. Your position now has to be absolutely perfect, but if it is, you'll hit an amazing return. If it's even slightly off, you've pretty much lost the point. I suppose the serve had to be strengthened again since before this update you could hit great returns no matter what. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.


There's a reason why breaks are so important in tennis. Against a moderately good server, breaking them is SUPPOSED to be hard, require guessing.

You're not supposed to just be able to time the button press and voila, great return.

I'm kinda liking these updates.
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Postby edlglide » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:17

I just got aced 22 times by a 98/98 guy. That's never happened to me before; I usually only get aced 2 or 3 times even by those guys.

This dude was an incredible server -- every serve was 140 and he was putting them right on the lines. Buuuut it was on WT and he was serving from the tramlines, so that helped him a lot.

Also played someone with 43 speed who still managed to sprint baseline to baseline and put deep shots back into play in a 25 shot rally. That was incredibly frustrating -- I think the problem is that the huge power players with low speed also have really high stamina, so they don't get tired.

Regardless, my point is that this patch definitely did not take away the power game, and anyone who thinks it did probably hasn't actually played it and just thought so based on reading the notes.
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Postby Andymachine » Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:38

Decided to try the WT to try out the "patch " yes the drop shots are more reachable but i find there is a problem , sometimes when the ball comes towards your forehand side , it suddenly switches your player round to your backhand side for no reason or vice versa , this didnt happen before and it totally mucks up your game , also the game seems more faster than before , hence giving the power players a HUGE edge , returning seems better yes, but serving is just the same. Im not really sure what to think about the patch apart from this , pretty much just the same if im honest .
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