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Postby djarvik » Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:32

I am ahead by almost 1700... Hehe
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:51

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ANILTJE wrote:I think just try not to hit them. Maybe a control slice when on defense.

I only hit from the backhand to be honest.


I use slice as a defensive stroke, It's stupid you can't use powerslice with ur fh, and also not done, like I said how are you able to know if he will hit for ur fh or bh?



That is exactly what we want to avoid Dennie, a power slice on defense from FH side. If you are on defense, then last thing you want to do is to press any button before seeing what shot is coming. Of course accidents mistakes happen....but you describing it as a strategy. Basically you saying that as soon as you realize you are on defense you quickly press and charge Slice button and have no choice of shot, even if it comes to FH side.

These power slices that land on the baseline while you are on full stretch is what we trying to avoid.


In a way that´s true, yes. I decide which shot I make before my opponent hits the ball, depending on my position, I would like to play a ts shot with my fh when i´m in defense except that it´s way to easy to counter for power players, that´s the reason I don´t like to use that shot. And playing a flat shot from defense position don´t seem like an option to for me..

It just has to do with my style of play, it´s not that I always press the buttons before the ball is hitted by my opponent, but I do it sometimes, and this rule is very hard to follow for my style of play because I already have in my head that I want to excecute that type of shot, especially in defending positions where you have to act quick.
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Postby KDZaster » Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:57

... IRL has Defensive Lobs and defensive slices that land on or near the baseline all the time.

We dont have defensive lobs, so all thats left are slices
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:58

There are no power players in SIM.

Then you gonna have to adjust ;) much like a lot of other players.

The SIM game is slower then regular tour. I see no reason what so ever to pre-press and charge the slice on defense. If anything, you want to stay quick on your feet.

Why don't you just hit a control slice? ...this will get you a real defensive shot, deep, close to the line and traveling slow to give you more time to recover. The only thing it wont have is the "property" of powered slice that all TS games mess-up, that makes the other's guy shots weaker. Fine when on offense, alla BH cross short slice after you pushed the opponent far behind the baseline.

As I mentioned, SIM is a different tour meant to be different. So players used to certain things in regular tour will have to adjust a bit for SIM tour.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:07

djarvik wrote:There are no power players in SIM.

Then you gonna have to adjust ;) much like a lot of other players.

The SIM game is slower then regular tour. I see no reason what so ever to pre-press and charge the slice on defense. If anything, you want to stay quick on your feet.

Why don't you just hit a control slice? ...this will get you a real defensive shot, deep, close to the line and traveling slow to give you more time to recover. The only thing it wont have is the "property" of powered slice that all TS games mess-up, that makes the other's guy shots weaker. Fine when on offense, alla BH cross short slice after you pushed the opponent far behind the baseline.

As I mentioned, SIM is a different tour meant to be different. So players used to certain things in regular tour will have to adjust a bit for SIM tour.


I don´t know why I don´t use control slice often.. Control shot slice seem to go to slow, people have much time to choose what they want to do, a ´normal slice´ would be acceptable, is that allowed?
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:20

FH slices are not banned :lol: they are all allowed. What is not allowed is to abuse them. And what you describe, will make you abuse them. You selecting a shot before knowing what is coming......maybe the shot is coming right back to you? ....as in opponent trying to wrong foot you rather then send you running. What turns out is you standing on one place with fully charged FH slice and send it down the line for a winner :lol: How does that look?

I strongly suggest that at least on defense you use control shots. It even makes sense if you thin about it.
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Postby LokiSharpShootr » Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:48

Slices in every point seems to be considered unfair by some of the top players on ITST, im just saying because i was playing against a really good oponnent who sent me a message that i was using slice in every point.

I was like WTF, he had a OFB and i had DFB so in my mind there was no problem with me using slices cause they are a counter, but reading the threads it seems that slices are considered overpowered in TS games and top players kinda consider them unfair, so whoever wants to abuse slices abuse it but you wont be in a high standart with the other players.
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:04

I think they do not have a problem with it as long as it is a control slice, or not purposely used when you are in perfect position for a TS winner, to use a power slice. I mean some people will use a power slice when they are in perfect position to hit a TS shot.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 04:02

djarvik wrote:FH slices are not banned :lol: they are all allowed. What is not allowed is to abuse them. And what you describe, will make you abuse them. You selecting a shot before knowing what is coming......maybe the shot is coming right back to you? ....as in opponent trying to wrong foot you rather then send you running. What turns out is you standing on one place with fully charged FH slice and send it down the line for a winner :lol: How does that look?

I strongly suggest that at least on defense you use control shots. It even makes sense if you thin about it.


But who sais I don't know whats coming? Reading my opponent is my strongest point I almost always know what's happening next, that's the main reason why I am able to effectively select my shot before my opponent hits it :)

I always use my power slices in realistic ways, I wan't it to be a fully charged shot so I can put it away deep so my opponent won't be able to finish the point, after that I mostly charge a TS shot so I can put them even further back, a perfect and in my eyes (real life tennis player) realistic way to take over the point. Keep the balls deep an uncharged slice shot is mostly just to weak in some situations.. I also use other types of slice but I am talking about a particular situation in a tennis match, where you are far behind the baseline and want to get back in the ralley, a normal slice just won't do the trick.
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Postby DennieFR1908 » Tue, 13 Sep 2011 04:04

RainingAmoeba79 wrote:I think they do not have a problem with it as long as it is a control slice, or not purposely used when you are in perfect position for a TS winner, to use a power slice. I mean some people will use a power slice when they are in perfect position to hit a TS shot.


Yes I understand that this is not allowed, I would never do this for me slice is only a defending strike.
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Wed, 14 Sep 2011 01:21

Then I think it is fine.
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