Drops everywhere.

[Julius Jackson]

This is still a case of people ignoring/being blind to the problems in TS4 that they abuse with their own playstyle, and which are just as unsim and annoying as drops. saying dropvolleys shouldnt be used is like saying short angle crosscourt control shots shouldnt be used. how often you see a perfectly timed shot like that in a match? 2-3 times? possibly more if were talking fed or nadal or djok but still...very rare. yet people hit this shot ON EVERY SINGLE PT which is cool...thats your style...but then dont complain if someone counters it with a drop.

when was the last time you saw a guy at the net warp 10 ft and hit a thunderous deep crosscourt volley? like never but it can happen every pt in ts4...so dont hit power volleys at the net, right?

when was the last time you could hit 40 consecutive shots to the corners and still get every ball? dont happen, right? guess you cant do it then

watch the hypocrisy, guys.

[edlglide]

my 2 cents:

I hit drop shots quite frequently, like once or twice a game depending on my oponent, and I don't consider it cheese. Normally it hits the net! I don't have the skill, so i can't abuse it, and I don't dare use it all the time, but drop shots have a risk reward element that capping them is ridiculous.

As someone said, if we want an entirely realistic set up, we should only use level 10's lol

This is exactly what we want to eliminate from competition. Gain the skill to play without drops, or lose every match the choice is quite simple.

And to whomever has been arguing that drop volleys are "so realistic and in tennis" that's great but they're actually cheesier in TS4 than regular drops so don't do them. There are plenty of other volley options anyway.

There's nothing wrong with hitting drop volleys when people hit the ball at your feet -- that's exactly what I would do in real life, and it's what I do on the game. But...hitting them cross court when it's right at your feet is unrealistic and cheesy, and hitting drop volleys when the ball is sitting up in a position where you should be hitting a regular volley is pretty cheesy too. Doing it occasionally to mix it up is one thing, but doing it every single time is silly.

[ILuvBillVal]

They're even easier to pull off than drop shots (which is sad) especially with high volley and reflexes. THAT is the problem and the only problem. People take complete advantage of this and therefore it is not fair for the very few people who actually use these styles realistically.

[ILuvBillVal]

blah blah something about hypocrisy.

I fail to see any hypocrisy anywhere in this particular thread. I love how everyone who decides to "chime" in on these discussions tries to relate everything to their own real life experiences. "Well this is what I do when I play tennis blah blah blah." By the way, this is a game. It's already Arcade as hell and unrealistic as hell and honestly the last thing it needs is a bunch of cheesy drop shot/volley spammers wanting to make it even worse than it already is.

That is the story and the end of the story. It pertains in NO way to what kind of slice you use against your friends, or what kind of cookies your GRANDMA makes. None of that crap.

[I_Zooloo_I]

i dont think we should talk about "is it realistic or not", the game aint really realistic on many aspects anyway, but it can be lots of fun!

Question is, is it overpowered, or does it kill fun and interest in the game.

ppl who use short crosscourt on every point are annoying, but those who dropshot every 2 points are really worse imo. and the desperate dropshot that makes a winner when your defense is about to blow is definately overpowered...

[RainingAmoeba79]

just finished a WT match. Won 1st set 3-1. Then, DRop shot spamming began to take place, and i lost. That is so retarded!!!!

[Tuurbine]

when was the last time you saw a guy at the net warp 10 ft and hit a thunderous deep crosscourt volley? like never but it can happen every pt in ts4...so dont hit power volleys at the net, right?
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Well i have to agree on that, i have been a "victim" in ITST matches of volley players who magically reach a ball and then they dash and send it crosscourt.... Not once, not twice, but at least 15 times in a match.

I use welch as coach, i have drop short artist but i really barely use it other than to surprise the opponent when he is way back.

iluvbillval is right, if one sticks with only been able to win a point with a drop shot its really taking the easy way out to win a point. Now i normally like to counter a drop shot with a drop shot, its fun and feels evil, so i like it lol

I think there are things that are pretty arcade inthe game as expected, and its true that one can make 5 shots deep in the corner in a row, and thats not realistic, but saying it should be banned? Mmmm dont agree because the "damage" done by that deep shot is not as nearly as deadly as a drop shot... Or a power volley.. But also the one to blame is 2k, because if they had managed to make low speed stats in power players really affect their speed, many players who have low power wouldnt be resorting to drop shot them because its much harder for a control player than a power player to make a winner
You can have a newby with a power player start making winners to another newby with a control player right from the start... And not the other way around, it will take lots of hours for the control newby to learn how to use his abbility... And maybe he will see that his speed stats are way higher than those of his power opponent, but still manages to reach every single ball and hit it back with lots of power... So he decides to go the easy way... Drop shot him to death...

So please, i am not supporting excess drop shots, i am just trying to get in the mind of some players and why they do things. Most players want to make the easy way for making winners, well, we all would like that... I like things differently, maybe thats why i refused to use monster defense and top spin invasion from the beggining... The same reason i dont use sahy rabari with Instant Rocket.

Sorry for the long post

[RainingAmoeba79]

same here, never used a mainstream setup f it was overpowered.

[BalkanPower]

I was anti drop shots last month, but since I´ve tried the drop shot artist-smell of blood coach I think it´s ok:) This coach gives me the stats I really need, FH, BH, SP. But because of the lack of power it's hard to hit winners with power shots when playing against good players. So I changed my mind and decided for myself that I will hit a drop shot when I cant finish off a point.

The only problem is that drop shots are " addictive" sometimes. Playing anil a few days ago, it was a tough match and he was right when he said that in the end of the match i started (ab)using drop shots...I did, cause he was hanging meters behind the baseline and returning every shot....we was playing a wonderful match....What else can I do to get him closer to me besides short slice or drop shot. He was comfortable behind the baseline, and this was the only way getting him out of that comfort zone:)

[Julius Jackson]

I was anti drop shots last month, but since I´ve tried the drop shot artist-smell of blood coach I think it´s ok:) This coach gives me the stats I really need, FH, BH, SP. But because of the lack of power it's hard to hit winners with power shots when playing against good players. So I changed my mind and decided for myself that I will hit a drop shot when I cant finish off a point.

The only problem is that drop shots are " addictive" sometimes. Playing anil a few days ago, it was a tough match and he was right when he said that in the end of the match i started (ab)using drop shots...I did, cause he was hanging meters behind the baseline and returning every shot....we was playing a wonderful match....What else can I do to get him closer to me besides short slice or drop shot. He was comfortable behind the baseline, and this was the only way getting him out of that comfort zone:)

wisdom

[OuiMr BersonBANNED]

I just played a guys who do only drop shot and short slice on each point.
I have lost but I can't complain to the host it will make too much sore looser.

[Moralspain]

I just played a guys who do only drop shot and short slice on each point.
I have lost but I can't complain to the host it will make too much sore looser.

please send the complaint, trust me, we take them into account

[Moralspain]

I just played a guys who do only drop shot and short slice on each point.
I have lost but I can't complain to the host it will make too much sore looser.

please send the complaint, trust me we take them into account

[LokiSharpShootr]

Yow OuiMrBerson did you play the guy in the Rogers Cup?
Because if u did i am up against him next round and i wanted to know what should i do?
should i play him normally (probably lose to him) then come here and complain and send the Host a message?
Or should i descend into his level and go cheese too?
Im up for ideias anyone.

[C4iLL]

Play serve&volley if you know how to play that setup