drop volleys

[synesthesia70]

Why do some people think drop volleys are cheesy? Are they cheesy?

I mean aren't volleys suppose to have some feel to it? I mean I agree about drop shots being overly done but that's not the same as a drop volley.

Anyways, just asking.

[RainingAmoeba79]

Its not really the shot: its that some ppl just use that all the time, and it makes the game verrrrrrry boring.

[ray237]

With my 94 volley player, i often use drop volleys, but i do it just because most people stay behind the baseline to try to do some crosses in orfer to pass me. I usually use drop volleys to close the point, and i think a s&v real player would use them a lot.

[ray237]

To say the truth, i think it's more cheesy if a 100power player always uses power shots, even if he's doing a reach shot, making unrealistic missiles from everywere, or that an inside-out player always use this kind of shot, doing inside-out fh and bh (no sense).

I can agree if someone thinks that the use of drop shots as reaching shots is cheese. The same regarding drop volleys to build up a point forcing the opp to shot a stroke that i will surely counter doing to point.

But if i'm in a situation in which i can close the point with a drop volley (if the opp stays behind the base line or shots a low and soft ball from an angle of the court, so the only effective volley i can do is the drop volley aiming the other side of the court) or with a drop shot, i think i can use it during every point, it's not my problem if my opp gives me the chance to close the point with these shots, this means he has this weakness.

Anyway, i think that after using a lot of drop shots, the opp will read my mind and beat me. It's just less cheese than the use of slow and low balls to counter a s&v player, or the use of powerful inside out shots with 100 power and inside out master, that gives the player a real advantage even if used during every point.

Using them often, in order to build up a point, can be cheese, but drop volleys, in order to close a point, are not cheese and they require a perfect timing to be sure the opp staying so far won't reach them (as a volley, it's not that easy). Using them often, in order to build up a point, can be cheese.

IMHO

[ANILTJE]

http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/v ... hp?t=15298

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

this is a typical doublepost ,its already in discuss on the link where anil have posted.
maybe better to discuss this there

[synesthesia70]

Using them often, in order to build up a point, can be cheese, but drop volleys, in order to close a point, are not cheese and they require a perfect timing to be sure the opp staying so far won't reach them (as a volley, it's not that easy). Using them often, in order to build up a point, can be cheese.

IMHO

I agree. I mean sometimes if I don't hit a perfect timing volley then I get burned.

[ANILTJE]

It's very clear. Drop volleys are fine and so are dropshots. It's the amount that they are hit right now in TS4.
Drops(volleys) should be a high risk shot. But they are wayyyyy to easy to pull off.

Just remember that while playing then all will be fine really. I really minimize the amount of drops . I mayyybe hit 3 or 4 per set. But that would be a lot really.

[ray237]

It's very clear. Drop volleys are fine and so are dropshots. It's the amount that they are hit right now in TS4.
Drops(volleys) should be a high risk shot. But they are wayyyyy to easy to pull off.

Just remember that while playing then all will be fine really. I really minimize the amount of drops . I mayyybe hit 3 or 4 per set. But that would be a lot really.

Yes, drop shots should be high risk shot, but it's also true that some players usually stay too behind the baseline, so they are aware from being passed and the only thing able to hurt them seems to be a good net approach with a drop volley (as a s&v player, i can also use every kind of volley, but the opp is so far that he can find extreme angles and pass me).
Sometimes it seems like the opp says "drop shots are cheese so i can stay 100% of my time behind the baseline and charge my shots thanks to my 100 power stat and my diesel hard hitter".

[Dark-Disaster]

Isn't a cheesy shot something that has low-risk but high-reward? If so I don't believe that drop volleys are cheesy. Even if it is easy to hit a drop volley, it is near impossible to hit a perfect drop volley off of every shot the opponent gives you. Bad drop shots are likely to put you in a bad position unless the opponent is very far behind the baseline.

[djarvik]

Isn't a cheesy shot something that has low-risk but high-reward? If so I don't believe that drop volleys are cheesy. Even if it is easy to hit a drop volley, it is near impossible to hit a perfect drop volley off of every shot the opponent gives you. Bad drop shots are likely to put you in a bad position unless the opponent is very far behind the baseline.

If you can hit upwards of 20 drop volleys with 40 volley rating in a match - its too easy.

I know I can, I must be a genius All it takes is a bit of practice on timing, just like with ground strokes, serves etc..

[ANILTJE]

Isn't a cheesy shot something that has low-risk but high-reward? If so I don't believe that drop volleys are cheesy. Even if it is easy to hit a drop volley, it is near impossible to hit a perfect drop volley off of every shot the opponent gives you. Bad drop shots are likely to put you in a bad position unless the opponent is very far behind the baseline.

If you can hit upwards of 20 drop volleys with 40 volley rating in a match - its too easy.

I know I can, I must be a genius All it takes is a bit of practice on timing, just like with ground strokes, serves etc..

Hahaha

+1

[jayl0ve]

drop volleys feel like a cop-out done by people who can't actually hit a well placed deep volley. Plus they are very easy to hit.


But if you think about it, it's used the exact same way in real life too...what do guys who aren't natural volleyers usually do when they get to the net??? Drop volley.

[djarvik]

But if you think about it, it's used the exact same way in real life too...what do guys who aren't natural volleyers usually do when they get to the net???

- Swing the air
- Frame it
- Net it
- Take on a chin




Sorry man, I disagree, a drop volley that is not going to become a sitter is very hard to do. Granted, directing volley deep into the court and controlling the Net play is hard as well. What guys that are "not natural volleyers" do in real life is equivalent to X(slice volley). It is rather short, nothing on it and usually is not well placed.

[jayl0ve]

Are you sure they're hitting x shots Al??

How do you know this, did they forget to turn off all their displays??

I'm talking about pros, BTW....not amateur players. I don't really see many pros completely whiffing the ball.