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Postby fedfan » Mon, 30 May 2011 13:26

Lost to Yard10 2&4. Me same as above he had 88 forehand 83 power Ns stamina in the low 80's.

To be honest I didn't feel overpowered although he hit a lot of winners with the forehand but the diesel returner just did nothing for me on any type of serve. Im sure for some it works but not me and it cannot be right that you can perfect time a slow serve and it does nothing.

Had chances to break back at 4-3 and 5-4 but couldn't do it. Also not that he did it often at all but when you have an 88 forehand and slicing it for winners up the line is more fruitful then hitting it flat then something isn't quite right.

Still liking the amazing first volley stat a lot though. Good match up overall.
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Mon, 30 May 2011 13:29

fedfan wrote:Lost to Yard10 2&4. Me same as above he had 88 forehand 83 power Ns stamina in the low 80's.

To be honest I didn't feel overpowered although he hit a lot of winners with the forehand but the diesel returner just did nothing for me on any type of serve. Im sure for some it works but not me and it cannot be right that you can perfect time a slow serve and it does nothing.

Had chances to break back at 4-3 and 5-4 but couldn't do it. Also not that he did it often at all but when you have an 88 forehand and slicing it for winners up the line is more fruitful then hitting it flat then something isn't quite right.

Still liking the amazing first volley stat a lot though. Good match up overall.


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Postby fedfan » Mon, 30 May 2011 13:40

He didn't do it often to be fair And I would not consider him cheesy either.

I mean I slice to defend or chip and charge, the flat hit should be the most devastating if hit well but the slice and top spin are way more effective and easy to hit imo.

It's this returning problem which really annoys, if your s great server and hitting the lines fine but when a serve is there to be hit and it goes no where it's very frustrating.
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Postby india-skro » Mon, 30 May 2011 13:40

Since I have been active here, I noticed that many players are getting "disappointed" because they have lost against somebody who got some overpowered players.
Here is my question.. why don't we limit some stats in order to avoid this kind of players?
In fact, we can have some 80 for the forehand (maximum) and less for the backhand (or vice versa)...
In this way, we won't have such a problem, and everyone should get approximative stats for their players

what do you say?
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Postby fedfan » Mon, 30 May 2011 13:46

I'm not saying he was overpowered. I just think we are going to struggle creating a sim tour because even the weaknesses don't feel like weaknesses in this game.

I don't notice players slowing down when their stamina is shot or not being able to hit strong on a weaker wing.
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Postby jayl0ve » Mon, 30 May 2011 13:56

Honestly I notice the effects of low stamina...I think it is 1- Harder to time shots well, i.e the timing window gets smaller (this is just my perception I really don't know if this is true) and 2- Harder to change directions...I don't think you really slow down that much (if it all) but it definitely seems tougher to get going from a standstill or to change directions, when you're tired.
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Postby SlicerITST » Mon, 30 May 2011 14:02

I agree with Jaylove. I played 2 long sets versus my Roland Garros opponent after which we found out the number of sets where wrong. We immediately started playing another match and the difference was certainly noticeable.

Movement and timing is affected. Perhaps not enough but it is there.
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 30 May 2011 14:23

....everything in this magic RB button :lol: It really has no business in the game other then "approach the net". Players do get slower and weaker and less precise....but then they start using the RB and do the "little girl skip step" on every shot - completely canceling stamina effects while looking mighty cute out there.
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Postby Vieira151 » Mon, 30 May 2011 17:42

But I LOVE looking cute! :oops:




JK I don't use RB unless I am for definite approaching the net(or trying to). Sometimes I'll use it and my shot is poorer than intended, so I will not move forward then(though that doesnt happen that often).


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Postby Coolhand Texas » Mon, 30 May 2011 18:04

djarvik wrote:....everything in this magic RB button :lol: It really has no business in the game other then "approach the net". Players do get slower and weaker and less precise....but then they start using the RB and do the "little girl skip step" on every shot - completely canceling stamina effects while looking mighty cute out there.


It seems like everybody i play in WT uses this button on every shot and never comes to the net?? Looks like they are on crack out there
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 30 May 2011 18:34

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Postby VMoe86 » Mon, 30 May 2011 22:24

Tonight I had my R16 match against Vieira151's Stepanek (he is quite spot on in a sense that one can recognize him ;)). I didn't take a photo nor did I write down his character's stats, but I remember both wings were below 70. He used the skills "Amazing first volley" and "Return serve counter" if I recall it correctly.

Here are my stats for a 6/7/7 allrounder with Farah Lum (skills are "Poisoned slices" and "Smell of blood") as coach:

FH 80
BH 69
SRV 70
VOL 53
POW 64
STA 74
SPE 70
REF 65

It was fun playing against someone playing serve and volley, but unfortunately Vieira151 wasn't at his best: Many double faults and not many well-timed volleys made it easy for me, although I still had to play well to win 6-1, 6-0.

Even with my backhand I could create great angles and dominate rallies from the baseline.

Previously I used Alex Bickham as coach, but after my loss against MastAki118 in R128 of Roland Garros I decided to go for a more defensive type of player, but I miss the ability "drop shot artist".

Thanks for the match Vieira151 and hopefully you don't play "utter shit" (you said it yourself :p) the next time we meet!
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Postby Vieira151 » Mon, 30 May 2011 22:37

Yeah, you played well. You punished my poor shots(it wasn't just my volleys that were frequently timed with "too late" or "too early" timing today) well and took your chances. We did have a few long games, and you came out trumps in all. :(

As I said, good luck in the next round.


PS The reason both wings are under 70 is because I haven't got the final coach bonus. Need to unlock it to get some more stat improvements.

I do hope for another match with you sometime. Not in the mood after that though, was smacking my racquet around due to my crappy timing. :? Would like to try with either of my other male characters. :)

EDIT: I think it is "spectacular volley", not "amazing first volley" as I hit that diving volley winner in the 1st set, and a crappier one you put away in the 2nd :lol:
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Postby Chederer » Mon, 30 May 2011 22:45

Coolhand Texas wrote:
djarvik wrote:....everything in this magic RB button :lol: It really has no business in the game other then "approach the net". Players do get slower and weaker and less precise....but then they start using the RB and do the "little girl skip step" on every shot - completely canceling stamina effects while looking mighty cute out there.


It seems like everybody i play in WT uses this button on every shot and never comes to the net?? Looks like they are on crack out there


this button was abused in TS3 as well....it allows you to apply so much more power on the short shot....could be we all need to use it inside the baseline...but, as in all other games once you discover the glitches even the small ones people will start abusing it.....just like in TS4 very slow serves are much more effective than fast serves
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Postby oshiee » Tue, 31 May 2011 07:17

chederer and fedfan spilling tea all over the place.
I don't need it to be an exact tennis sim but it should at least resemble a real tennis match. How can a slice forehand dtl be more effective than a flat forehand dtl? I've seen maybe a handful of slice forehand winners in real life. They need to fix the slice cuz it should not be that effective of a weapon. Don't even get me started on returning serves. A 88 mph slice serve in the middle of the box should not be harder to return than a decently placed 145 mph flat serve. As a change up yes but if you are serving avg 95mph serve in men's tennis you will get eaten up.
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