What are you Cheesers gonna do without your RISK-SHOT?

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Postby jayl0ve » Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:54

Yep.

In the past TS games I've been as big a risk-shot fan as there is. I'm really happy with the way shots are implemented in TS4 and have no problem with there being no risk shots...so that should kinda tell you something (that OP thinks about this way too much)
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Postby DRII » Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:18

ACERBOMB wrote:I risked in Top Spin 3. I mainly did it on returns. I agree the service was dominant in TS3. To me you either had to be a good top spinner or risker to get a chance at a break. (im talking about the average player, not you robots lol)

However im glad the risks are not in this game. The Serve and return seems more balanced in this game which is nice, also the character moves more fluid so even if your pulled out you can get back to the ball often.

I will say when people serve hard with Roddick I cannot even see the ball it seems so fast. I do think this game is going to reward the counter puncher though.

In the end we all had things that bugged us in TS3 but I think its safe to say it is unfair to call someone a cheeser or cheater for using a shot that was put in the game.


More fluid movement :shock: yeah right! Maybe comparing Xbox versions...
The movement in ts4 is no where near as fluid or organic as in PS3 TS3!!! Plus with the utter ridiculousness of removing dpad compatibility makes this game feel incredibly unnatural to me.
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Postby NickZ3535 » Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:26

DRII wrote:
ACERBOMB wrote:I risked in Top Spin 3. I mainly did it on returns. I agree the service was dominant in TS3. To me you either had to be a good top spinner or risker to get a chance at a break. (im talking about the average player, not you robots lol)

However im glad the risks are not in this game. The Serve and return seems more balanced in this game which is nice, also the character moves more fluid so even if your pulled out you can get back to the ball often.

I will say when people serve hard with Roddick I cannot even see the ball it seems so fast. I do think this game is going to reward the counter puncher though.

In the end we all had things that bugged us in TS3 but I think its safe to say it is unfair to call someone a cheeser or cheater for using a shot that was put in the game.


More fluid movement :shock: yeah right! Maybe comparing Xbox versions...
The movement in ts4 is no where near as fluid or organic as in PS3 TS3!!! Plus with the utter ridiculousness of removing dpad compatibility makes this game feel incredibly unnatural to me.


It seems strange they would get rid of it. Up until last week I didn't even know that people used the dpad, but if that many people do maybe we can get them to reinstall it with a patch. It shouldn't be that difficult...
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Postby oDEVLISHo » Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:39

there are a few people i cant wait to beat in ts4...so many match reports going on and on about risk players and how unfair it was... its going to be so **** funny to see what they say now lol :c
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Postby jayl0ve » Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:57

Oohhh trust me, they will come up with SOMETHING to bitch about. If they can't find something about your playing it will be something about the character you use...if they can't do that they'll say that you were laggy

etc etc etc
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:10

yea guys like i said i played norberto today him using nadal and me blake and guess what? He is still damn good. knows how to paint the lines on a ton of shots and he has already has the serve down pat!

like everyone else has said, the people who were good at risking in TS3, will be good in TS4
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Postby tenjintenkai » Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:25

i played norberto tonight as well. It was my first and only match so far against a human on-line. He used Nadal and beat me using Davydenko 6-4. No risk shot but you can see the guy knows timing and position.

his days are counted though.... :)
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Postby Rob ITST » Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:39

NickZ3535 wrote:
DRII wrote: the utter ridiculousness of removing dpad compatibility makes this game feel incredibly unnatural to me.


It seems strange they would get rid of it. Up until last week I didn't even know that people used the dpad, but if that many people do maybe we can get them to reinstall it with a patch. It shouldn't be that difficult...


Is the movement in TS4 finally true analog? I mean, can you move in ANY direction, and not just the 8 directions on a d-pad? If it's truly analog, then the d-pad just wouldn't work, and it you tried to use it, you'd be at a serious disadvantage.
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Postby ColossalChicken » Thu, 17 Mar 2011 03:17

never even used risk shots on ts3... i enjoy real tennis
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Postby Otlichno » Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:02

Yeah! Gosh risk returns are so cheesy! Let's ban all people who use them!


They require no anticipation, no timing, nothing at all. We should just go ahead and ban all of them.
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Postby Y Enzo Y » Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:06

Aggasi's slices are unreal in this game so powerful and you barely get tired when using them :shock:
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:14

Y Enzo Y wrote:Aggasi's slices are unreal in this game so powerful and you barely get tired when using them :shock:


murrays forehand slices kills me, thats all he does with him. Well guess its like real life :lol: :lol:
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Postby Cro Morgan » Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:17

Just played a match against don't know who, using Roddick. Holy crap!! His serves were untouchable. Lightning fast!!! Nothing like the Roddicks I played earlier. :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby willjonesjrSUSPENDED » Thu, 17 Mar 2011 05:32

targon, you and I played many a match when we were just starting. I hate to break it to you but Djarvik is right. The best players have the best timing period. That's tennis. Riskers are better players than non-riskers. That's just how it is. You can bet that those same top players will rise to the top for ts4. That's the way it is in real tennis and that's the way it is in TS3 and TS4.
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Postby pfnerch » Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:56

i played Noberto tonight too a lost 6:4 . his timing was great especially serve. i love this game without risk but the good players here in ITST will hit just every ball close to the lines bec of good timing. i always hated risk shots in TS3 bec i cant make them :( . but it was not cheesy to hit riskshots it was timing a very much training. so respect for guys like noberto who hits every ball with risk. sometimes boring but only for his opp. :D
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