The SIM Exhibition Thread

[djarvik]

Blah!

I have been running around my BH for 2 years now. I did this against you Xavi as well.

Not an easy shot, but nothing new.

Rob did it first, against Xavi - video is still up.

I wrote a little tuto here, if you want to learn the shot:

http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/v ... hp?t=13160

Going to have to disagree with you on this one Al, its been a while

I know the shot you are talking about & I have also watched the "you tube" video of Rob ITST and i'm telling you, its not the shot.

In this shot Epox does not have to run around the backhand, he simply stands in position, and like Xavi said, it looks like lag because one second the ball looks like its gone past him a touch and the next he opens up a flat risk inside out forehand.

I can do all the shots, but I can't do that one!

First, we should play this weekend

Read my tuto. He is doing exactly that (unless it is lag as Xavi says). Shot in the video is not inside out and the reason Rob is running over is because it is not coming to mid court. But the execution is exactly how I describe it. You can feed me a few balls and I will show you.

At one point 2 years go, we did a lot of shot testing with Rob and discussed a lot of possibilities. I even thought the the future of the SIM tour will be pre-press free, because of some shots we discovered. Like between the leg volleys, tweener shots, touch slices (the only one I still use) etc.

All these and more are available when you make discussion after you see whats coming. But that never caught on. It was easier to just press and hold bottom and let the AI chose the shot.

But believe me, there is a lot of stuff still in TS3 that we don't see because of pre-pressing.

Like rallies after the Lob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOYrcO_Y3vs

Anyway, Xavi, I am with you as far as Lag. I stopped playing my last Final against EPOX because I could no longer handle the telephoning or swinging after the ball goes by him Not his fault, but I just gave him the match.....it was too frustrating.

When EPOX is not in "I want another title mode" he is fun to play with as he is very good baseline and is capable of constructing points that are not power dependent.

[Moralspain]

Blah!

I have been running around my BH for 2 years now. I did this against you Xavi as well.

Not an easy shot, but nothing new.

Rob did it first, against Xavi - video is still up.

I wrote a little tuto here, if you want to learn the shot:

http://www.intertopspintour.net/forum/v ... hp?t=13160

I know Al, and i remember Rob hitting that shot against me, actually when i played against Epox i didn't pay to much attention to that shot really, because as i said, i thought it was just lag. i thought to myself "what is going on here?, why is he standing there without moving a muscle until the last instant?, is it just lag? or is he doing this on purpose?".

The point here is that i can crush anyone, anytime, anywhere, that simple. ("ITST top player" mode on) hahahaha

Xavi you couldn't crush a bug if it was crawling uer your shoe and shouted "crush me, crush meeee"

hahahaha probably i couldn't

[Baghdad Baghdatis]

Al - I still disagree, its not the same shot, period.

I have never seen anyone do it and therefore from my experience and from all the players I have come up against, you, rob etc no one has played a shot like that before.

There is no lag in my matches versus epox, although it may look like lag, its not, its just the way it looks because of his timing.

So you can blah and tutorial post all you want

[djarvik]

Well, then you described it wrong. oh ... and ...Blah!

Anyhow, my point is that there is way more shots out there that are being lost....because most pre-press

I wish TS3 would not let you charge the shot until the ball goes over the net.

We need AMAZING ZIZOU to explain us how he is able sometimes to do a Swinging Volley. Haven't seen anyone do that.

[Otlichno]

I love hitting inside out shots, whether it be forehand or backhand, I especially love to hit 1-2 winners from them after my serve. I don't run around my backhand but allot of the time I find myself in a position to hit that shot.

I don't prepress my risk shots, but it's difficult to get any depth or power on you're shots not prepressing on safe shots.

[J0KER FR]

I lost 7-5/6-2 Against Kebab. At 5-5 I wanted the exchange. After he showed me around the short side thanks to his magic. Today, I was not your Kryptonite. I hope you saw my shift forehand (I'm getting better ...). Good luck on your final Laith ; )

(Thank you at Google translate...)

[VillaJ100]

Well, then you described it wrong. oh ... and ...Blah!

Anyhow, my point is that there is way more shots out there that are being lost....because most pre-press

I wish TS3 would not let you charge the shot until the ball goes over the net.

We need AMAZING ZIZOU to explain us how he is able sometimes to do a Swinging Volley. Haven't seen anyone do that.

I can hit that volley. But usually its very weak. That is the one area i'll give virtua tennis in realism over ts3, the ability to hit a authoritative drive volley, like a proper groundstroke in the air.

[jayl0ve]

The movement is also much better/critical in VT.

Against the best players, you cannot afford to make even one mistake in your movement along the baseline, you are seriously basically screwed because you need to be in position for as long as possible to get any kind of power out of your shot

[Otlichno]

In VT, the player move so fast that all you have to do is keep on moving randomly in circles and you'll get to the ball.

In Top Spin the players move so slow that even the worst of drop shots can be made into winners.

[Moralspain]

The movement is also much better/critical in VT.

Against the best players, you cannot afford to make even one mistake in your movement along the baseline, you are seriously basically screwed because you need to be in position for as long as possible to get any kind of power out of your shot

btw Jon, we arranged 1 month, so you can remove that avatar, colega

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

I think he like the avatar now so much that he didn´t will change him anymore

[Coolhand Texas]

In VT, the player move so fast that all you have to do is keep on moving randomly in circles and you'll get to the ball.

In Top Spin the players move so slow that even the worst of drop shots can be made into winners.

only if you pre press

[Otlichno]

Even without prepressing it's still far too slow.

Moving side to side is okay, but when it comes to coming into the net it's far too slow.

[coke4]

Played 2 fun ones recently,

coke4(Tompson) defeats brgerflipr(Mahone) 7-6 7-6

A really fun match, in the first set there were loads of rallies but no breaks, in the 2nd set i go up a break but he breaks back, however i manage to break him to win the set.

alex13090(House) defeats coke4(Tompson) 6-4 7-6

1st Set I start of strong holding easily by hitting some great shots, in his 1st service game i get three break points and we have around 10 dueces, with lots of great rallies but he eventually holds and then uses the momentum to break me then hold. The rest of the set goes as our matches always go, with both of us holding to 30 or duece. He eventually takes the set, a set with almost 80 points.

2nd Set He goes up a break early on and has chances for a double break but I hold on while getting to 30 or duece in most of his service games. At 5-4 he gets 30-0 up, but thanks to a few UE i get back to 30-30, then play aggressively to get a break point before smashing a bh down the line to take it. However he manages to keep his cool and manage to break me right back to 15 to serve for the set again for 6-5. I get 0-15 and i am dominating the point hitting deep and powerful shots but alex as always was impossible to put away, i manage to hit a very good crosscourt forehand but he manages to somehow get to it and hit an unbelievable crosscourt fh winner from miles wide and behind the court. I manage to get 30-40 but he saves it, he gets 3 mp, one of whice i save with a defensive running forehand up the line which landed on the line the put it away with a bh up the line. I then get a break point and take it after i hit a big bh down the line followed up by a big fh down the line winner. He gets an immediate mini break when i net a bh and i only win 1 point on serve and 2 mini breaks in a tb he dominated to take 7-3.

I hit 43 winners to 29 unforced errors, he hit 30 winners to 11 unforced errors. While i lost i can take great confidence from the match as ilost a close game which came down to a few points each set against the number 1!

[coke4]

Even without prepressing it's still far too slow.

Moving side to side is okay, but when it comes to coming into the net it's far too slow.

The movement is also much better/critical in VT.

Against the best players, you cannot afford to make even one mistake in your movement along the baseline, you are seriously basically screwed because you need to be in position for as long as possible to get any kind of power out of your shot

I got to disagree with you both. Firstly in VT the players move way to quick, you can consistantly smack balls down and they can get to them easily, look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWnBHtdwy28

In TS3 the movement is a bit clumsy, but quite good, and a lot of time too quick opposed to to slow, i have played players with slow speed who are impossible to put away, the can be in the tramlines when you hit the shot, u hit a full power shot into the opposite corner and they get it, impossible, same goes for VT