Retirement during ITST matches - your thoughts....

[coke4]

I understand if somebody is flat-out abusing an actual glitch (like the inside the baseline returning) but unless your opponent's just cheating somehow, you need to suck it up and at least finish the match IMO. ESPECIALLY if it's an 'official', ranked match (in ITST). Losing is not supposed to be fun, it's part of competing. I doubt you quit matches where you're winning comfortably and hitting amazing shots left and right because it's so 'BORING' that you're winning so easily. Gimee a break, it has nothing to do with being 'bored' or 'not having fun'. I've quit plenty of matches I know the feeling, it's not out of boredom, it's out of total rage and disgust with yourself.

BTW I'm not tryin to bash you or argue with your or anything, I mean you have your opinion I have mine, and they're way different obviously, but at the same time there's no anger here so I just want to make that clear

Its nothing to do with losing or winning, in fact i'd just like to point out that my funnest MS match was in fact a loss, in a grand slam final

It's true I would never quit when i was winning, but like i said the only reason I would quit was if someone was playing really cheesy, like constant short slice after serve. Obviously winning makes it more fun to play, and if you are winning and showing them that cheesy play is not necessary to win. If I'm playing an opponent who wants to win at all costs then I don't see the problem with it. They win, they are happy, and i have saved half an hour of my life.

Interesting, quite a wide range of opinions to be fair.

Just picking up on a few points...

I guess everyone has the right to do what they want. However, I am of a changed opinion that says if there are repeat offenders that are notorious for annoying styles of play then do not enter the match knowing this.

If fun is what you want then do no enter the match and expect the player to suddenly play what you believe is fun whenever they have never displayed that before.

99% of the time players quit because they are losing (e.g. 6-1, 4-0 etc) and therefore should continue to play. I think what a few of you are forgetting is that you are thinking about yourself and what is fun for you. An opponent who gets retired on regularly and probably gets quite a lot of poor choice words in PM's afterwards probably isn't having much fun at times, although winning probably makes up for it.

I bet that if a player was having a horrible match and then broke the opponent to take 1 say 5-3 lead you would NEVER see that player retiring - yes they may still really not enjoying the tennis but knowing that they can withstand the awkward style to take the win and move onto the next round.

Let me make it clear however that I hate ugly styles as much as the next and wish that everyone could play fun and SIM like topspin. However realistically I have learnt that not everyone believes in this and quite rightly have their own perception of fun and video gaming as folk have pointed out in the past - for me therefore it is a grinding my teeth exercise but I will show my opponent the respect he deserves as a fellow member.

Im not saying retiring once you have lost the game is fine, im saying retiring when all your opponent wants to do is win and you dont want to waste your time with it is fine.

[RV_Cobra11]

I think i have only retired once. It was the old sim setup and I was playing a guy who was playing cheesy and had 89 79 69 while i had realistic setups, i could barely win a point and it was so boring, so i decided 'What is the Point'? and quit, and if in that situation again i would do the exact same thing.
I play this game for fun, so why waste my time in a boring match against an opponent who just wants to win?

TOMO???? lol

[ChunkDEUCE]

Personally I've had a few different people quit on me or just simply give up, and neither make me feel good. I hope I've never brought someone to contemplate quitting a match based on my style of play or something I can control... Though as a player myself I have never quit a match, maybe it's the competitiveness in me that keeps me thinking I always have a chance, competitiveness or stubbornness , but I just don't see why you would quit...

If you're not winning--you're learning is how I see it. By quitting or giving up you're letting that opportunity to get better pass you by. Shit, I've had to play people I plain hate playing but, I always respect my opponents during match play. I could quit every time I'm losing to Norberto or Murda but what's the point in that? You just need to tough it out and you'll be better for doing it.

I can understand some reasons to quit i.e. impossible lag or cheesy tactics. But in the end quitting just really is parasitism, have the maturity to finish a match even if you know you will inevitably come out on the losing end.

PS... It is very frustrating when someone quits on you, happens ALL THE TIME on WT.

PPS... Let's hit again soon Baghdad!