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[RV_Cobra11]

just saying that i never like the way u played,plus there's no reason to call me a kid

disrespecting my age i see

[DRII]

I also think its very important not to take this game too seriously

Completely agree...

[Vieira151]

I also think its very important not to take this game too seriously

Completely agree...

Then... uhhh....Stop complaining?

[alex13090]

Well DRII, in our RG MS match I didn't risk return and limited risking altogether, as I know it bothers you and I always try and put an effort to make my opponent enjoy the match.

Considering my player has a very weak wing in MS terms, i pretty much made the match impossible for myself by not risking, since your setup was 85 or something on both wings, but I was ready to lose that way. Unfortunately you still felt the need to slice after serve, even when I never risk returned.


No hate or anything, but I just find this all contradictory, what with claiming to slice off risk returns but when someone tries to play your way you keep doing it. A shame because I remember actually enjoying the rare times we faced each other months ago.

[djarvik]

DRII, I am not angry at all. I am not the one complaining here.

It just struck a nerve with me when you started bringing up "exploits".

In our recent match, I barely risk returned, but still you insisted on short slicing every point. Even mid point you would short slice to setup the points...anyway, whatever.

I just think that to form an opinion one needs expirience on the subject, it seems like you feel no such need when it comes to this discussion.

[DRII]

Well DRII, in our RG MS match I didn't risk return and limited risking altogether, as I know it bothers you and I always try and put an effort to make my opponent enjoy the match.

Considering my player has a very weak wing in MS terms, i pretty much made the match impossible for myself by not risking, since your setup was 85 or something on both wings, but I was ready to lose that way. Unfortunately you still felt the need to slice after serve, even when I never risk returned.


No hate or anything, but I just find this all contradictory, what with claiming to slice off risk returns but when someone tries to play your way you keep doing it. A shame because I remember actually enjoying the rare times we faced each other months ago.

Alex, as far as I remember that was our first match. And its very admirable that u would change your game to make a match more enjoyable and entertaining but I would never ask u to do such a thing. Again any player can do anything that's within the rules. I admit I have changed my game to try and cope with risk returnees and riskers in general, its a learning process. But I don't remember us playing before, was it non itst on psn?

Anyway as far as I am concerned slice is apart of the game as well as risk. And so is complaining about each on the forum.

[DRII]

DRII, I am not angry at all. I am not the one complaining here.

It just struck a nerve with me when you started bringing up "exploits".

In our recent match, I barely risk returned, but still you insisted on short slicing every point. Even mid point you would short slice to setup the points...anyway, whatever.

I just think that to form an opinion one needs expirience on the subject, it seems like you feel no such need when it comes to this discussion.

So its your perspective that someone has to have played Top Spin tennis for multiple years if not a decade, like yourself, to have a valid opinion. Well then we will never agree and probably shouldn't debate.

And again, as far as that one match u keep referencing, as I said in the pm I sent u after the match; I was exhausted, played lame, and apologized for it. Yet u continue to cite this match, bewildering...

And my complaints are with some functionalities of TS3 itself not any one particular player. I didn't even start this thread just participated in the discussion, oh I forgot I don't have enough experience to participate according to you. My fault.

[alex13090]

Alex, as far as I remember that was our first match. And its very admirable that u would change your game to make a match more enjoyable and entertaining but I would never ask u to do such a thing. Again any player can do anything that's within the rules. I admit I have changed my game to try and cope with risk returnees and riskers in general, its a learning process. But I don't remember us playing before, was it non itst on psn?

Anyway as far as I am concerned slice is apart of the game as well as risk. And so is complaining about each on the forum.

Yea we played a non-itst game iirc..If you've always used short slice after serve then perhaps I'm confusing you with someone else

I don't understand your last two sentences though. You're saying its all actually part of the game; even the complaining..?
If thats the case then I agree, except for the complaining. Sick of the complaining.

Anyway I'm outta here, been avoiding these type of discussions as they are repetetive and silly.
Peace.

[Coolhand Texas]

DRII, I am not angry at all. I am not the one complaining here.

It just struck a nerve with me when you started bringing up "exploits".

In our recent match, I barely risk returned, but still you insisted on short slicing every point. Even mid point you would short slice to setup the points...anyway, whatever.

I just think that to form an opinion one needs expirience on the subject, it seems like you feel no such need when it comes to this discussion.

So its your perspective that someone has to have played Top Spin tennis for multiple years if not a decade, like yourself, to have a valid opinion. Well then we will never agree and probably shouldn't debate.

And again, as far as that one match u keep referencing, as I said in the pm I sent u after the match; I was exhausted, played lame, and apologized for it. Yet u continue to cite this match, bewildering...

And my complaints are with some functionalities of TS3 itself not any one particular player. I didn't even start this thread just participated in the discussion, oh I forgot I don't have enough experience to participate according to you. My fault.

yea that usually what makes an opinion valid if you have some idea of what you are talking about

[DRII]

And who decides if someone knows what they are talking about? You, or whomever you deem knowledgeable? All it takes for an opinion to be valid is for one person to think so, such as the person stating the opinion!

[Coolhand Texas]

And who decides if someone knows what they are talking about? You, or whomever you deem knowledgeable? All it takes for an opinion to be valid is for one person to think so, such as the person stating the opinion!

thats not how it works.

the moon is made of cheese, valid opinion because i think so. you see not true.

i think opinion is valid when someone has knowledge about what they are talking about, so when djarvik said if you have played the game for awhile and learned what there is to about the game, then you can make an opinion that would have some value.

[djarvik]

DRII, I am not angry at all. I am not the one complaining here.

It just struck a nerve with me when you started bringing up "exploits".

In our recent match, I barely risk returned, but still you insisted on short slicing every point. Even mid point you would short slice to setup the points...anyway, whatever.

I just think that to form an opinion one needs expirience on the subject, it seems like you feel no such need when it comes to this discussion.

So its your perspective that someone has to have played Top Spin tennis for multiple years if not a decade, like yourself, to have a valid opinion. Well then we will never agree and probably shouldn't debate.

And again, as far as that one match u keep referencing, as I said in the pm I sent u after the match; I was exhausted, played lame, and apologized for it. Yet u continue to cite this match, bewildering...

And my complaints are with some functionalities of TS3 itself not any one particular player. I didn't even start this thread just participated in the discussion, oh I forgot I don't have enough experience to participate according to you. My fault.

oh boy, talking about angry.

I was refering to your stament of risk being as easy as 90% goes in. How do you know if you don't use it?

..and our last match is the only one we played, so I have nothing else to cite but that and your forum posts.

[DRII]

Koolaid anyone?

[maximo]

u say that is too easy risk in this game and take advantage, but u don´t use it because u lose your timing, is a bit contradictory

[tonedawg1]

it should be easier for u to risk if u have good timing there essentially the same u hit very power full "normal" shots