Darth Luisito CHEESY

[coke4]

if you stay in the right serve position, you can serve 100% outside, its ok and not cheesy! its after the rules!

No, firstly you are getting confused between cheesy and illegal.
Yea serving 100% outwide is legal, but its 100% cheesy.

[jayl0ve]

It's also kind of...unintelligent strategy. It's the kind of thing where if you're literally serving 100% of your serves out wide and your opponent cannot recognize this insanely obvious pattern that you're stuck in, your opponent must really suck.

[coke4]

It's also kind of...unintelligent strategy. It's the kind of thing where if you're literally serving 100% of your serves out wide and your opponent cannot recognize this insanely obvious pattern that you're stuck in, your opponent must really suck.

Not really, on ps3 anyway, its really hard to move out far enough outwide while they are serving consistantly so you dont get enough of a swing at it, the only way if its a good outwide serve is to move out before they serve outwide, then they can go down the middle

[Darth_Luisito]

I don't understand the meaning of "outwide", but i don't serve in the same form all the match. I change my serve during the match.

[Mystical Lion]

if you stay in the right serve position, you can serve 100% outside, its ok and not cheesy! its after the rules!

No, firstly you are getting confused between cheesy and illegal.
Yea serving 100% outwide is legal, but its 100% cheesy.

i am not agree, sorry!

[Saarbrigga]

I don't understand the meaning of "outwide", but i don't serve in the same form all the match. I change my serve during the match.

Outwide means a serve very sharp to the outside, almost impossible to return.

Take a look on this illustration. It means if you serve like this 99 of 100 times:



I am a real artist, right?

The problem is, it s possible to serve so much at the outside, it s almost impossible to return.
It works LT + RT + X. I am doing it was well, but maybe 3 of 10 times.

[coke4]

if you stay in the right serve position, you can serve 100% outside, its ok and not cheesy! its after the rules!

No, firstly you are getting confused between cheesy and illegal.
Yea serving 100% outwide is legal, but its 100% cheesy.

i am not agree, sorry!

The outwide serve is over-effective and easy to pull of, using it more than 60-70% of the time is unrealistic and taking advantage of a flaw in the game, so therefore its cheesy

[Baghdad Baghdatis]

if you stay in the right serve position, you can serve 100% outside, its ok and not cheesy! its after the rules!

No, firstly you are getting confused between cheesy and illegal.
Yea serving 100% outwide is legal, but its 100% cheesy.

i am not agree, sorry!

The outwide serve is over-effective and easy to pull of, using it more than 60-70% of the time is unrealistic and taking advantage of a flaw in the game, so therefore its cheesy

Very true, in my opinion, bang on the money coke....

[jayl0ve]

It's not really a flaw in the game though, you just kind of state that like it's a fact. It's more of an idiosyncrasy of the game of tennis. If you could hit a sharply angled slice serve from the deuce court in real life, any time you wanted, it would be just as effective. I have played guys in real life where I am thinking "You cheesy bastard stop hitting that serve" Because it really is just as difficult to deal with. I guess the difference is that in TS3 and most tennis games, this serve is very easy to hit with great consistency. But nobody ever said TS3 is real-life tennis or should be exactly like it, nor should we impose physics/expectations of real-life tennis onto TS3 or any other game. The similarity to real-life tennis ends with the fact that you are hitting a (virtual) ball back and forth over a tennis net. Everything else is up to the game engine/physics and you should judge shots/strategy in TS3 with that firmly in mind. Can't blame anybody for taking advantage of something in a game. To not take advantage of some extremely efficient techniques is foolish.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[Baghdad Baghdatis]

Can't blame anybody for taking advantage of something in a game. To not take advantage of some extremely efficient techniques is foolish.

Chaps,

That for me just re-iterrates that there are 2 very distinct shcools of opinion on this sort of matter - which is completely fine (as already discussed)

School one - "To not take advantage of some extremely efficient techniques is foolish" - also its not illegal so why not do it?

School two - To take advantage of flaws in the game is cheap and unsportsmanlike once an individual is aware.

Both arguments for me are valid as they mean something to the individual. If we all thought the same we would all be robots.

However neadless to say I grew up in "School two"....

[Moralspain]

Can't blame anybody for taking advantage of something in a game. To not take advantage of some extremely efficient techniques is foolish.

Chaps,

That for me just re-iterrates that there are 2 very distinct shcools of opinion on this sort of matter - which is completely fine (as already discussed)

School one - "To not take advantage of some extremely efficient techniques is foolish" - also its not illegal so why not do it?

School two - To take advantage of flaws in the game is cheap and unsportsmanlike once an individual is aware.

Both arguments for me are valid as they mean something to the individual. If we all thought the same we would all be robots.

However neadless to say I grew up in "School two"....

good school, i want my kids to go there

[Darth_Luisito]

I don't understand the meaning of "outwide", but i don't serve in the same form all the match. I change my serve during the match.

Outwide means a serve very sharp to the outside, almost impossible to return.

Take a look on this illustration. It means if you serve like this 99 of 100 times:



I am a real artist, right?

The problem is, it s possible to serve so much at the outside, it s almost impossible to return.
It works LT + RT + X. I am doing it was well, but maybe 3 of 10 times.

Your image is more clear!! you are a artist!!! )

I use serve 60-70% outwide of the time, in the important point i serve outwide.

[Baghdad Baghdatis]

Can't blame anybody for taking advantage of something in a game. To not take advantage of some extremely efficient techniques is foolish.

Chaps,

That for me just re-iterrates that there are 2 very distinct shcools of opinion on this sort of matter - which is completely fine (as already discussed)

School one - "To not take advantage of some extremely efficient techniques is foolish" - also its not illegal so why not do it?

School two - To take advantage of flaws in the game is cheap and unsportsmanlike once an individual is aware.

Both arguments for me are valid as they mean something to the individual. If we all thought the same we would all be robots.

However neadless to say I grew up in "School two"....

good school, i want my kids to go there

Its a great school, I would highly recommend it, my kids love it there