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Postby RV_Cobra11 » Sun, 28 Mar 2010 02:27

lol im GREAT, i beat pocho in my first tournament
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Postby VillaJ100 » Sun, 28 Mar 2010 03:55

ovhij wrote:lol im GREAT, i beat pocho in my first tournament


Sim or 90/40?
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Postby RV_Cobra11 » Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:36

90/40, rakuten MS, lol in semis i lost to calvkln 7-6 6-3, i was happy because my best friend lost to my friend nitoflament 6-2 7-5 :P
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Postby SoundfSilence » Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:39

I've had some fantastic matches this weekend, with Tombs, andoni, djarvik, vieira, andman.

This one is definately one to share and have logged on ITST message board, I was Cannon and went up against the amazing coke's one and only Tompson

I beat him! 3-6, 7-5, 6-4

1st Set:

coke served first. I said it not long ago that he was hitting cleanly, and I standby that. Perfect timing on his shots. He held with relative ease and threaten to break many times. He eventually broke at 4-3, going 5-3, then served it out. I was outplayed on all departments. He took the set with his first ace of the match.

2nd Set:

Me serving at the 1st game, I think he got to 0-40! I dug deep, with some clean hitting of my own I brought it back to Deuce, just for him to get another breakpoint. I saved it and took the game.

For the first time, I got breakpoints off him the next game. He saved these and held. I did break him and got to 4-1. He upped his game, being aggressive, coming up to net and got a break back. We got to 5-5, me serving, he had a breakpoint which I saved. I broke him to take the set (he hit a few errors, stamina may have come into play here). It was 14-40, he saved one breakpoint. The second, he came up to net and I hit a clean backhand down the line pass and I went YES!!!

3rd Set:

I felt I had the advantage serving first. We exchanged breaks, I think I broke him first, so I never had the pressure of going behind. At 5-4, I think he gifted me a couple of points with double faults. That gave me a half chance and I took it.

Great game coke, thanks bud.

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Postby coke4 » Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:15

SoundfSilence wrote:I've had some fantastic matches this weekend, with Tombs, andoni, djarvik, vieira, andman.

This one is definately one to share and have logged on ITST message board, I was Cannon and went up against the amazing coke's one and only Tompson

I beat him! 3-6, 7-5, 6-4

1st Set:

coke served first. I said it not long ago that he was hitting cleanly, and I standby that. Perfect timing on his shots. He held with relative ease and threaten to break many times. He eventually broke at 4-3, going 5-3, then served it out. I was outplayed on all departments. He took the set with his first ace of the match.

2nd Set:

Me serving at the 1st game, I think he got to 0-40! I dug deep, with some clean hitting of my own I brought it back to Deuce, just for him to get another breakpoint. I saved it and took the game.

For the first time, I got breakpoints off him the next game. He saved these and held. I did break him and got to 4-1. He upped his game, being aggressive, coming up to net and got a break back. We got to 5-5, me serving, he had a breakpoint which I saved. I broke him to take the set (he hit a few errors, stamina may have come into play here). It was 14-40, he saved one breakpoint. The second, he came up to net and I hit a clean backhand down the line pass and I went YES!!!

3rd Set:

I felt I had the advantage serving first. We exchanged breaks, I think I broke him first, so I never had the pressure of going behind. At 5-4, I think he gifted me a couple of points with double faults. That gave me a half chance and I took it.

Great game coke, thanks bud.

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Thanks sound great match but im not gunna lie, Cannons around court speed really started to get to me and i started getting fustrated and playing stupid points. It just got to me that i could hit 4 risks in a row side to side, cannon get to them all, then hit a winner off the 5th risk. It seemed like you had 90 speed and stamina. That coupled with 3 or 4 nor risk errors on break points and i mentally collapsed and found it really difficult, still hit the ball very well, but wasnt mentally able to hold it together and you took advantage of that so well played.

Of course you as always played clean and fair and im not trying to take away from your win, you deserved it :wink:

It was an important match though, shows me that i am still mentally frail after my aussie open defeat....
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Postby SoundfSilence » Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:50

coke4 wrote:Cannons around court speed really started to get to me and i started getting fustrated and playing stupid points. It just got to me that i could hit 4 risks in a row side to side, cannon get to them all, then hit a winner off the 5th risk. It seemed like you had 90 speed and stamina. That coupled with 3 or 4 nor risk errors on break points and i mentally collapsed and found it really difficult, still hit the ball very well, but wasnt mentally able to hold it together and you took advantage of that so well played.


I noticed it when you gave me easy points, and I definately thought I need to take advantage while I can! The mental game is a big part for me too, I was lucky you gave me some double faults :D

Very true, Cannon is faster than he is intended (and in my opinion, he is the easiest player to use). Saying that though, I played djarvik, he used Fussman. Like you, I had to hit like 3 to 4 L2+R2 risks to win the point. His Fussman got to everything.
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Postby coke4 » Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:46

SoundfSilence wrote:I noticed it when you gave me easy points, and I definately thought I need to take advantage while I can! The mental game is a big part for me too, I was lucky you gave me some double faults :D

Very true, Cannon is faster than he is intended (and in my opinion, he is the easiest player to use). Saying that though, I played djarvik, he used Fussman. Like you, I had to hit like 3 to 4 L2+R2 risks to win the point. His Fussman got to everything.


Firstly yes mental side is huge, and i was mentally weak, you were mentally strong, if you had my mentl strength you would have given up after the first set :P

Secondly yes Djarvik's Fussman and almost every other player is way faster han intended, put at least Fussman has high stamina. I could take it if Cannon was just getting the balls back, but he was also putting way to much on it...
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Postby locati_agosti » Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:53

Yestarday I played Djarvik´s Fussman against my Borat Cannon..
it was a very easy loss for me 1/6 1/6.

I have to say the most surprising thing was some kind of short strange shot that made me really piss off...

He also served very well...

About me, i think i can play long rallies with no diffucult at all (might be mi strongest point but of course almost everyone here is better)

I still find difficult to serve to the lines and to hit good returns
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:11

:lol: ....Fussman is here to annoy you all! :lol:

I haven't lost a match with him yet :shock: and there were claims he is the weakest player. :?

BTW - locati_agosti, you played with Canon right, so there is nothing "strange" about me hitting a short wide top spin to your weaker BH :roll: :wink: with my slightly stronger BH I might add. You were insisting on exchanging BH, so I did.

...the reason you got frustrated with it, is because you actually very "average" during rallies.....you almost never went to my 54 FH a few times in a row :? your general decision making was poor....sorry :oops:

You move very well thou.....but with Canon, getting into a rally against me - is a losing proposition. Every time.

My recommendation to you is:

- Lose the Roddick serve motion. Take Serve motion A.
- Remember to play 60-70% balls to your opponent weak side.
- Don't risk out of frustration into an open court.
- Don't return to mid court with slow Cannon, be more aggressive, place better.

In fact, with what I saw, Cannon is a wrong player for you. You biggest strength is movement and you picked the slowest player. I understand why: Strong serve, Power, big FH. But you really need to give other players a chance. I am sure there is a slightly better fit for you there.

If you want, I'll be happy to play you a few times during the weak and figure some things out for you. You got your movement down....from here its simply the strategy and shot selection. You will be really good in a few weeks. Stick with it.
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Postby RV_Cobra11 » Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:22

djarvik, can we play a match, i want to play your fussman
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Postby locati_agosti » Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:39

djarvik wrote::lol: ....Fussman is here to annoy you all! :lol:

I haven't lost a match with him yet :shock: and there were claims he is the weakest player. :?

BTW - locati_agosti, you played with Canon right, so there is nothing "strange" about me hitting a short wide top spin to your weaker BH :roll: :wink: with my slightly stronger BH I might add. You were insisting on exchanging BH, so I did.

...the reason you got frustrated with it, is because you actually very "average" during rallies.....you almost never went to my 54 FH a few times in a row :? your general decision making was poor....sorry :oops:

You move very well thou.....but with Canon, getting into a rally against me - is a losing proposition. Every time.

My recommendation to you is:

- Lose the Roddick serve motion. Take Serve motion A.
- Remember to play 60-70% balls to your opponent weak side.
- Don't risk out of frustration into an open court.
- Don't return to mid court with slow Cannon, be more aggressive, place better.

In fact, with what I saw, Cannon is a wrong player for you. You biggest strength is movement and you picked the slowest player. I understand why: Strong serve, Power, big FH. But you really need to give other players a chance. I am sure there is a slightly better fit for you there.

If you want, I'll be happy to play you a few times during the weak and figure some things out for you. You got your movement down....from here its simply the strategy and shot selection. You will be really good in a few weeks. Stick with it.


well man thanks for this amazing analisis about my game!
since i´m new i need to learn lots of things that maybe everyone knows here (but not me) so feel free to critizice my game as much as you want (always with respect, as you do)

I will be very happy to play against you again and maybe try different players and strategies...

I was already thinking in changin the service motion so this comment is the last clue i needed to do it...

Thanks buddy!
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Postby coke4 » Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:12

djarvik wrote::lol: ....Fussman is here to annoy you all! :lol:

I haven't lost a match with him yet :shock: and there were claims he is the weakest player. :?


Djarvik, upon finally realising the mutant is his favourite player, decided to play like him :wink:

Seriously though are matchb was a real nailbiter and its a shame i had to play ITST and i want to play you again, soon
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:03

One difference between mutant and me - I am not afraid to actually go for the shots. I am "what" Murray needs to be. 8) :lol:

Yeah, I will be home early today, we shall play Coke. It was a really close, unfinished match.

locati_agosti - yeah man, I am all for criticism as well. Nothing but respect to you and your game. I simply convey my observations, I know for myself, when I first came in, no one was doing it....all I used to get is: "good game"...."you'll get better" ...."keep practicing"...."it was much closer the the score of 0.6 0.6 indicates"....

....All this is crap :lol: Constructive criticism as harsh as it is works best. At least for me.


BTW - had a few fantastic matches with Sound and Marlon. Great stuff! We need to record some of these :P
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:22

I figured I'll post my PM to locati_agosti here as well, maybe someone will find it useful for themselves:

locati_agosti wrote:by the way man.. what player would you say should do it for me?


I need to play you a few times more.....but try Bucci, House, Rogers.

Basically, the idea is that since your serve is not great anyway, waisting 86 points by using Cannon seems wrong. All players above have a lot of stamina and still have a weapon in 1 stroke (FH or BH)

Stamina makes you change direction faster, keeps that "pop" on your shots longer in rallies and generally makes all your shots more consistent.

Seeing that you move well....build on that and work your way to other parts.

Make sure to be patient. You have the longevity advantage so don't rush to finish the shots. Concentrate on L2 risking and placement.

DON'T give all shots with the same pace.....you have the speed and movement to counter attack. Make a soft deep ball into the corner or middle of the court....make your opponent attack of that ball....position yourself and counter risk.

On serve, vary it more. Not only Spins, but pace and placement. Use L2 only serves, use serves with no risk at all.

On return - now you can do what you did against me and use it as a strategy. Return mid court short with top spin. Yes it will give your opponent a few more options....but you will be ready to counter as your return will be traveling slow enough for you to get into position and counter. When I say Mid court, I really mean mid and a little to the side....basically you want to return a short ball to opponents weak side with little angle. Angle leads to more angle....so if you choose to Angle...make sure it is not coming back.

I think this pretty much what you should work on. You have all the basics for that game type. Picking a player Like Canon, Bash is surely simple....but my opinion it is NOT improving your all court game, in fact, in hearts it....you are getting used to easy one-two punch points and when someone like Alex, Jose, Coke or me make you come up with that extra shot - you crumble.

It is much easier to learn to play with players that require you to strategize a bit deeper and then use Canon. Ask Sound, he will attest to that.

Hope it helps.
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Postby locati_agosti » Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:32

sure this info will come helpful!
only 1 last question... why do you reccomend to serve with only L2 and not L2+R2?

should i use the strick or better the buttons?
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