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Postby Rob ITST » Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:15

GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:about serve/volley player or player with the 1 shot gameplan , i riskreturn more .


Try not using any risk against serve and volley. It's really not necessary.
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:26

Rob ITST wrote:
GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:about serve/volley player or player with the 1 shot gameplan , i riskreturn more .


Try not using any risk against serve and volley. It's really not necessary.


you mean lt returns?
serve-volley player with a good 90 serve are my horror opponent in moment ,coz normally i´m the attacking player on court,
and this serve ,run to net ,got the point with 1 or 2 volley tactic is worst for me and my gameplan.
that brings me automaticly in defense. so i use sometimes the riskreturn to hold him back at the baseline
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Postby Rob ITST » Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:31

I mean no risk at all. Just normal returns. It doesn't matter if it's sim or regular, normal returns can beat serve and volley if you use them correctly - you'll have to figure that part out for yourself though. :wink:
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Postby Chederer » Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:50

GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:
Gunz Buz n Lust wrote:Ich spreche über Chederers spiel-angebot der er in dem vorangehende Seite angestellt hat :D. Ich riskiere unheimlich viel in die spiele die extrem wichtig sind, zb. 4:4, 5:5 oder besonders, in der Tiebreak. Aber das find ich wirklich kritisch um sätze zu gewinnen, stimmste nicht zu?


a german speaking player . nice

i play my risk not so by special points like 5-5 . i play mostly risk when i have enough time for the right position to play risk.
with that a risk is no all or nothing shoot.
by returning its different , there i play sometimes no risk return -sometimes i play much riskreturn .
my riskreturn its contidioned how my opponent serve and how is his gametactic at generell.
about serve/volley player or player with the 1 shot gameplan , i riskreturn more .
about no risk player and less stat baseline player i play less riskreturns


I'm talking about playing Chederers-offer which he has made in the previous page. I'm taking an awful lot of games in which are extremely important, eg. 4:4, 5:5, or especially in the tiebreak. But I find really critical principles to win, do not agree?
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Postby EquitiesindallasBANNED » Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:45

i don't understand your last post. what are you trying to say?

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Postby Gunz Buz n LustBANNED » Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:09

Chederer for future reference, dont use google translate, some of the most important words get muddled up and the person interprets it differently; I can gladly help you translate the post.

My Post in German: Ich spreche über Chederers spiel-angebot der er in dem vorangehende Seite angestellt hat . Ich riskiere unheimlich viel in die spiele die extrem wichtig sind, zb. 4:4, 5:5 oder besonders, in der Tiebreak. Aber das find ich wirklich kritisch um sätze zu gewinnen, stimmste nicht zu?

My Translation: I'm talking about Chederers offer for a match that he wrote on the previous page. I use riskshots on a frequent basis in games which i find of great importance, for example, 4:4, 5:5, or espicially in the Tiebreak. However, this tactic is imperative to use when winning sets, ageed?

Hope that helps ched and equities,

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Postby Chederer » Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:32

actually google translate---pretty much translated it perfectly in my eyes...pretty much the same as you translated it back to me
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Postby VillaJ100 » Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:35

Rob ITST wrote:I mean no risk at all. Just normal returns. It doesn't matter if it's sim or regular, normal returns can beat serve and volley if you use them correctly - you'll have to figure that part out for yourself though. :wink:


agreed. me and Hita79 had a very fun match today, my first against ITST level competition for a while, i used my SV player and lost 6-7 7-6 6-7, and while no breaks we both had chances. at 1st my serve kept him in check on my service games, and i tried to get a read on his serves, then he resorted to risk returns and we had very many short points, but in the 2nd set my 1st serve % dipped and i chipped into play some of his great serves, adn we had very many crushing rallies with me trying to get to net whenever possible and with some great passes by him and volleys by me. the 3rd we was both tired, and he had 0-40 on my serve to win it 7-5, but i held on with a shoestring volley, but in the final tiebreak he had too much. good game.
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Postby joesixtoe » Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:36

if you are a constant risk returner i wouldn't feel like i'm better than someone who chooses to play a style that doesn't involves that.... so when you win, do you feel like you won? I probable wouldn't. if we all went out and started risking every serve, don't you think we all would get good? I used to be a lot better at risk returning than I am now, cause thats all I used to do. I still risk return, but only within all the other types of returns you can do. I credit anil for telling me that risk returning all the time makes it boring, and after awhile i started listening to him, cause he was right. i didn't feel like I was winning, it felt like I was exploiting a weakness.
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Postby jayl0ve » Thu, 17 Sep 2009 02:43

I don't risk return a lot just because I think it's better/smarter to do what Federer does on his return games, and just start a rally. I don't feel bad at all if I start a rally with a return, and end up losing the point...I do feel bad/stupid though if I just try to hit an 800 mph winner, miss, and give away a point in less than 2 seconds.
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Postby Fredz_x » Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:53

SIM tour makes up for all this, less power = more fun :)
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:09

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no offend or anything- just my opinion

less power= boring
1 white stat in po-fh-rh = meh + boring

i prefer in sim max 79 fh-rh-po as limit(without a white fh-rh-po stat ) =better

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Postby Fredz_x » Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:14

GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:*

no offend or anything- just my opinion

less power= boring
1 white stat in po-fh-rh = meh + boring

i prefer in sim max 79 fh-rh-po as limit(without a white fh-rh-po stat ) =better

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Yeh but then whats the point in SIM lmao?
Supposed to emulate realism,
79 fh
79 bh
70 ret
70 vol
79 pow
etc etc, is boring whats the point you will have only 1 stat with 50 which would be stam so i cant see where your coming from?

If you want to play superhuman tennis then play 90/40 and risk everything til your hearts content ;)
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:21

i said it earlier in forum in another tread ,
its better to be far away from regular tour.at all i vote for the actuell simrules too .
myself i have more fun when i must react fast like in regular setup ,with full speed and full power



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Postby VillaJ100 » Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:47

Had what would probably have turened into a classic with DarkPaladin earlier, i used my sim SV player, and him a player which was a baseliner, with an attacking mindset, 1st set went on serve, until i clinched it and took the set 7-6, 2nd set i had 8! bp's and never was able to take any apart from one right at the start of the set, DarkPaladin promptly broke back and i had a break point in every one of his service games and never converted, we had some brutal rallys, and this guy can hit a volley, until my final service game to make it 6-6 and he took the break on his one chance, final score of the match 7-6, 5-7, on BP's, me 1/11, darkpaladin 2/2. Unfortunatley i had to leave as i was going out and my gf was going barmy lol but this was a great match, no major lag, and will play again soon :)
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