Murray vs Del Potro

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Who will win the Rogers Cup final?

Andy Murray (The Mutant)
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48%
Juan Martin Del Potro
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Postby oDEVLISHo » Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:20

Yippie-Caiay wrote:
mr devilish wrote:
Yippie-Caiay wrote:actually i think the mutant is not so boring to watch cause its very interesting to see how he manages to win points by not doing anything...thats talent.. :arrow:


He got one less winner than Del Porto, so maybe try and back up your claims rather than just jumping on the band wagon! Sorry i am a Fed fan really but this murray bashing on here is getting silly, i thought you guys would know better!

COME ON!!!


lol i was actually admiring murray, not bashing him....i meant, he seems not to do anything and thats why everyone hates him, but he has very good shots, plus defence, which makes him a great player...

not probably n2 though :wink:


Ok cool, just sounded like a backhanded compliment. right thats 2 guys that can see Murrays talent, anybody else??


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Postby Samael » Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:22

mr devilish wrote:
Yippie-Caiay wrote:actually i think the mutant is not so boring to watch cause its very interesting to see how he manages to win points by not doing anything...thats talent.. :arrow:


He got one less winner than Del Porto, so maybe try and back up your claims rather than just jumping on the band wagon! Sorry i am a Fed fan really but this murray bashing on here is getting silly, i thought you guys would know better!

COME ON!!!





Be serious, please!!! DespotRO won the first set playing exactly the same as Murray. No offense at all. That was because he was tired and tried to conservate his energy. If DEspotRO was at his best, he would have thrashed the Mutant, Cyborg, mega freaky tennis player called A Moron. You say he didn't do his best? More than returning the ball in, he can't do anyththing else. Why should i stop bashing him? It's my opinion. Reese always has opinions, even if he's miles away from knowing the subjects of the topics. I hate him and i am glad more fellows around here share my point of view. I am not intending to denigrate your country or island or anything else. I am just trying to understand your point of view and perspective over this guy, A Moron. Or A Morrow(does the word morrow exist in teh dictionary???).
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Postby Yippie-Caiay » Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:58

[quote="Dragos"]
Why should i stop bashing him? It's my opinion. Reese always has opinions, even if he's miles away from knowing the subjects of the topics.[quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: LOL

sorry, too funny :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

btw, yes, if delpo had been phisically ok he would've won
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Postby fedfan » Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:01

[quote="Yippie-Caiay"][quote="Dragos"]
Why should i stop bashing him? It's my opinion. Reese always has opinions, even if he's miles away from knowing the subjects of the topics.[quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: LOL

sorry, too funny :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

btw, yes, if delpo had been phisically ok he would've won[/quote

Consider though Murray might have played more attacking if he thought he had too, but he didn't have to and he was right to just extend the points against a weary opponent.
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Postby Samael » Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:13

We've already been through this. Tell me two or three matches in which Murray was offensive and i will lay my hat in front of you.
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Postby fedfan » Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:21

Dragos wrote:We've already been through this. Tell me two or three matches in which Murray was offensive and i will lay my hat in front of you.


I'm not saying that, I'm just saying but when your leading the tour in terms of wins it's hard to argue with his tactics.

If people don't like them though then that's fine, everyone can have an opinion.

Again my opinion though is that he will not win a grand slam playing so defensively.
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Postby NARCOSIS2009 » Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:29

Dragos wrote:We've already been through this. Tell me two or three matches in which Murray was offensive and i will lay my hat in front of you.


US open 2008 Semi VS Nadal. Ive seen MANY matches that hes offensive against lower ranked opponents, because he doesnt need to be consistent, he just shows up the inconsistency of a federer, del potro, djokovic cause they cant hit more than 3 offensive shots?. What dragos is effectively saying is Ball bashing is talent? That must make the womens tour look amazing. Also ive been reading most of ure tennis opinions Dragos and its clear to me u dont watch or admire the game of tennis, u just want winners no matter what. Murrays play is true skill, Movement is one of the best, defense one of the best, VOLLEY one of the best (when its on) and his first serve is great, his backhand is also very good.

And i agree with Mr devilish the murray bashing on here is getting retardedly out of hand, but if thats what people enjoy then your all sick bastards that have no life whatsoever. :D
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Postby Samael » Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:01

Saying that Murray's volleys are the best proves you know nothing about tennis. I've never seen any other top 5 player with so weak, unconsistent and unsecure volleys. Basically, he doesn't know what to do near the net. He cannot be defensive there and he completely looses it. Regarding his other weapons, his bh is great only as defensive weapon. His fh is poor. His second serve is lame. I bet my entire fortune( around 10 pennies it's all i got now) that Murray will be bashed by any resonable power player in the next season, once they learn his sick and twisted little tennis he's showing right now. I mean, Roddick overpowered him easily at Wimbledon. Del Potro overpowered him at Madrid this year. Fed in good mental form will beat him in straights at the US Open. Nadal beat him at Miami this year(where Murray really should have attacked with that wind and so, but he chose not to because he has no balls). The matches against the Spaniards shows us the same ultra defensive player. If you mean that by attacking you refer to passing his opponents, you are right, but you cannot pass the balls you cannot see, sometimes!
On other hand, saying about players that attack Murray that they don not have a life is not the same as us attacking Murray. I do not attack personally you guys here on itst. Like Rob said, Andy the Mutant Murray is not participating in any itst tour, so we can say whatever we want, as long as we don't make reference to his nationality. So, i do not want to accuse me every time i talk about Murray that i have no life. That's lame, unecessary and i consider it a direct attack, even if you say it as a joke. Why don't you start attacking and bashing ANY other pro player??? I tell you why: because no other guy is like this Mutant. Say anything about Nadal, federer, Tsonga, Davydenko, Roddick ,DEl Potro, Gonzalez, Simon, Nalbandian etc... No other player can raise this big controversy as Murray. We all know why. We are not the only guys that do not like him. Many, many lovers of tennis hate him. :lol:
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Postby Vieira151 » Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:29

I can say Simon plays too passively :P







And by the way, what you said earler:
Or A Morrow(does the word morrow exist in teh dictionary???).


It does exist, as the name of Coke's player in TS3 :P :lol:
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Postby Samael » Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:31

Lol. Good night, guys! :wink:
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Postby Vieira151 » Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:33

And that Nalbi is too unfit despite his massively, unstoppable talent :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby NARCOSIS2009 » Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:54

Dragos wrote:Saying that Murray's volleys are the best proves you know nothing about tennis. I've never seen any other top 5 player with so weak, unconsistent and unsecure volleys. Basically, he doesn't know what to do near the net. He cannot be defensive there and he completely looses it. Regarding his other weapons, his bh is great only as defensive weapon. His fh is poor. His second serve is lame. I bet my entire fortune( around 10 pennies it's all i got now) that Murray will be bashed by any resonable power player in the next season, once they learn his sick and twisted little tennis he's showing right now. I mean, Roddick overpowered him easily at Wimbledon. Del Potro overpowered him at Madrid this year. Fed in good mental form will beat him in straights at the US Open. Nadal beat him at Miami this year(where Murray really should have attacked with that wind and so, but he chose not to because he has no balls). The matches against the Spaniards shows us the same ultra defensive player. If you mean that by attacking you refer to passing his opponents, you are right, but you cannot pass the balls you cannot see, sometimes!
On other hand, saying about players that attack Murray that they don not have a life is not the same as us attacking Murray. I do not attack personally you guys here on itst. Like Rob said, Andy the Mutant Murray is not participating in any itst tour, so we can say whatever we want, as long as we don't make reference to his nationality. So, i do not want to accuse me every time i talk about Murray that i have no life. That's lame, unecessary and i consider it a direct attack, even if you say it as a joke. Why don't you start attacking and bashing ANY other pro player??? I tell you why: because no other guy is like this Mutant. Say anything about Nadal, federer, Tsonga, Davydenko, Roddick ,DEl Potro, Gonzalez, Simon, Nalbandian etc... No other player can raise this big controversy as Murray. We all know why. We are not the only guys that do not like him. Many, many lovers of tennis hate him. :lol:


Yeah well ure completely wrong about the volleying, i said ONE of the best not THE best, And u saw one match today with Andys volleys not so good so u claim them as shit?. lol Anyways u have ure opinions about murray and the world etc, you just dont need to drill it into every single damn topic, gets boring after a while, shows just how bored you are and cant think up anything useful or uve got some sort of repetitive illness. :lol:

And out of this list that u put up

Nadal, federer, Tsonga, Davydenko, Roddick ,DEl Potro, Gonzalez,

Federer and tsonga are the only ones with better volleys than murray. And for the record Murray also has one of the best slice from a double hander in the sport... u can debate that all u want. :D
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:17

This turned out to be one heck of a thread :lol:
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Postby Q. Reese » Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:39

Moralspain wrote:Murray 6-2 6-1


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Postby Samael » Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:56

NARCOSIS2009 wrote:
Dragos wrote:Saying that Murray's volleys are the best proves you know nothing about tennis. I've never seen any other top 5 player with so weak, unconsistent and unsecure volleys. Basically, he doesn't know what to do near the net. He cannot be defensive there and he completely looses it. Regarding his other weapons, his bh is great only as defensive weapon. His fh is poor. His second serve is lame. I bet my entire fortune( around 10 pennies it's all i got now) that Murray will be bashed by any resonable power player in the next season, once they learn his sick and twisted little tennis he's showing right now. I mean, Roddick overpowered him easily at Wimbledon. Del Potro overpowered him at Madrid this year. Fed in good mental form will beat him in straights at the US Open. Nadal beat him at Miami this year(where Murray really should have attacked with that wind and so, but he chose not to because he has no balls). The matches against the Spaniards shows us the same ultra defensive player. If you mean that by attacking you refer to passing his opponents, you are right, but you cannot pass the balls you cannot see, sometimes!
On other hand, saying about players that attack Murray that they don not have a life is not the same as us attacking Murray. I do not attack personally you guys here on itst. Like Rob said, Andy the Mutant Murray is not participating in any itst tour, so we can say whatever we want, as long as we don't make reference to his nationality. So, i do not want to accuse me every time i talk about Murray that i have no life. That's lame, unecessary and i consider it a direct attack, even if you say it as a joke. Why don't you start attacking and bashing ANY other pro player??? I tell you why: because no other guy is like this Mutant. Say anything about Nadal, federer, Tsonga, Davydenko, Roddick ,DEl Potro, Gonzalez, Simon, Nalbandian etc... No other player can raise this big controversy as Murray. We all know why. We are not the only guys that do not like him. Many, many lovers of tennis hate him. :lol:


Yeah well ure completely wrong about the volleying, i said ONE of the best not THE best, And u saw one match today with Andys volleys not so good so u claim them as ****?. lol Anyways u have ure opinions about murray and the world etc, you just dont need to drill it into every single damn topic, gets boring after a while, shows just how bored you are and cant think up anything useful or uve got some sort of repetitive illness. :lol:

And out of this list that u put up

Nadal, federer, Tsonga, Davydenko, Roddick ,DEl Potro, Gonzalez,

Federer and tsonga are the only ones with better volleys than murray. And for the record Murray also has one of the best slice from a double hander in the sport... u can debate that all u want. :D




No, i have been watching Murray's volleys in every match and they suck big time. I am not ill with this, it's just that i hate from all my heart this guy and i am pissed off every time he wins teh way he does.
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