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Who will win the ITST World Tour Finals in 2013?

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ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby VMoe86 » Mon, 18 Nov 2013 17:45

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The Top 8 are going to play the ITST World Tour Finals and it is going to be an interesting tournament! Details can be found here:

ITST World Tour Finals Page

Deadlines for this tournament:
Group matches 1+2: 18.11.13 - 21.11.13
Group matches 3+4: 22.11.13 - 24.11.13
Group matches 5+6: 25.11.13 - 27.11.13
Semi-Finals: 28.11.13 - 30.11.13
Final: 01.12.13 - 03.12.13


Personal impression: Richie as Raonic :c , rest is more or less as expected.

Good luck everyone!
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby C4iLL » Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:36

I was hesitating with Raonic as well to make a surprise :lol:
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby Felipe.M » Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:20

Great tournament, excellent players, congrats to all for clasificated to the Masters.

The tournament will play with the ITST 1.16?... And the finish update when it come out?
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby VMoe86 » Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:27

Only ITST 1.15 to be used.
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby Robbin92 » Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:19

C4iLL wrote:I was hesitating with Raonic as well to make a surprise :lol:

Why not Llodra?
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby C4iLL » Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:45

I haven't tried LLodra for months but I think I would be extremely far from the level I had with him last year :D
It's a pity coz Vramvrim showed he's very competitive in indoor !
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby Michael.D » Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:22

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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby VMoe86 » Mon, 18 Nov 2013 23:14

Robbin92 wrote:
C4iLL wrote:I was hesitating with Raonic as well to make a surprise :lol:

Why not Llodra?

You are now the host of WTF again, by the way (I had to put myself as host to edit tournament page). Don't worry about the "Cannot place match result" message on your personal page, it is related to how WTF is implemented and not a fault.
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby Robbin92 » Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:14

I would have liked to see C4iLLodra :)
Extra tight deadlines on this tournament everyone!
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby Florian » Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:33

I'm realizing what a tough tournie this year it is : so many people could take the title !
Still I think I discern a group with Vram, Richie and Pidzi who are favorites (Richie the only one to have the guts to chose a disgusting player :P), then another group with Vmoe, butcher and myself having challenged recently the group above, and a last group with C4ill and Felipe M who had a very solid year and could make also a nice upset indoors.

My group is very tough, with world N1 alongside the most impressive revelation of this 2nd half of the year, and C4ill who defeated me very recently, so really nobody is gonna give an easy match.

In the other group, Vram, Vmoe and butcher are currently playing so well on that surface, it's gonna be even more indecise and probably very interesting !

I'm just surprised no one took Nadal :P
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby pidzi » Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:16

I dont know who already voted for me, but i really think im not among the main favorites (My personal favorites are Richie and VMoe ) since i feel im loosing some kind of "magic" i possessed last months and im not that sovereign anymore in adition to the fact i cant play so regularlyanymore . But it doesnt mean i will give a match for free to anyone. Im really excited about the last tournie of the year and will be hoping for some good fights.
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby Florian » Tue, 19 Nov 2013 22:59

I'm always very impressed by Vramvrim, using many new chars, not practicing much and always playing at the highest level, both in offensive and defensive way...he's my favourite, especially since he picked Fed !
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby C4iLL » Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:52

Well, we'll see, personally I'm exhausted, I didn't play for a while, I've no time to practice so my objective will be to score a few games here and here :lol: Hope VMoe will better represent the old generation :lol:
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby VMoe86 » Thu, 28 Nov 2013 00:11

2013 is over -- for me! Let's get into some details why. :p

Round Robin Match #1: butcher (Cilic) defeats VMoe86 (Haas) 6-3, 6-4

After the groups were out I knew that match would be very important in the end. I could name at least five excuses for why I have lost this match, but in the end it came down to this: Focus! I was 2 out of 11 on Break Points, he was 4 out 4. These big points are of course easier to play (mentally speaking) when you are comfortable and confident in your game. I think I chose the right tactics, even winning more points on 1st Serve than he did (I was Haas and he was Cilic!). Congrats to butcher for winning this match, even though today it might have ended differently. :D

I was still convinced that I could reach SF, because I knew what I did wrong in that match. With that attitude and a healthy dose of confidence my journey continued.

Round Robin Match #2: VMoe86 (Haas) defeats Felipe.M (Harrison) 6-0, 6-1

I saw Vramvrim's results against Felipe.M and butcher and thought this might be a more difficult match, but to my surprise it was not at all. One part of it was maybe due to him having stressful days with exams at university, but the other part was more about his game, which maybe has been too much based on AutoPosition. In flawless conditions (for Germany <-> Colombia, 200ms ping constant at 167ms delay) I could do pretty much what I wanted on court: Defend, attack, paint the lines, return well. Felipe is a nice guy and I wish him good luck next season!

After that match it was clear to me: If I beat Vramvrim, I will advance to SF! I was feeling good about my game, things were working well.

Round Robin Match #3: Vramvrim (Federer) defeats VMoe86 (Haas) 6-4, 7-6 (7)

Here I am, having lost a match which I could have won if a few points here and there were a bit more favourable to me. I started well, 40-0 on serve, then the first netcord winner (first of many netcords to come :p) gave him 40-15 and somehow I got broken, where I felt he did nothing. Same way I felt after I was down a double break, 0-3. Then suddenly I found my groove and punished his conservative game as Federer, getting back to 3-3. The match was starting to look like our great battles from Madrid and Wimbledon, with long rallies and Stamina getting lower and lower and him also taking more risks now. We pretty much neutralized each other from that point on. He got the edge for 4-3 with a break and almost won the set with another break for 6-3, but I was fighting and believed in a turnaround!

In the first set it wasn't meant to be, despite my 20 something winners compared to his 12 or so (don't remember exactly). Now, start of 2nd set, Stamina was around 50% for both of us. I got the better start in this battle and was up 4-1 (with one break), then he got back to 4-3, but I broke for 5-3 and was serving for the 2nd set. Being down 0-30, I got back to 30-30, hit a decent serve, his return touches the netcord, I get to it and slice it back, rush the net, get the pass I want and put the volley just a bit wide, break point for him instead of set point for me (my real life reaction was just an epic double facepalm!). Of course I got broken, he even got to 6-5, serving for the match. Here I got lucky with some deep shots.

A tie breaker had to decide this set. It kind of went like the set itself: I lead 4-1 (first point of this tie break I hit a nice short accell attack and he manages to hit a netcord winner off it!) with one mini-break, but he gets back the mini-break and also gets first match point at 6-5, but I save it to get a set point myself. In the end I made stupid choice with the drop shot and he won this match with Average Rally Length of 11. Congrats Vramvrim and good luck in SF!

Conclusion

A season with several tight losses and 0 titles is just over for me. Of course I am remembering some matches very well, especially the match against Vramvrim at Wimbledon and that famous combination of beating butcher over three days and then losing one day later in three tie breaks to Richie at Roland Garros. These are the matches a competitor loves, which motivates me to play in 2014 (after all I lost too many of them!). I will put focus on some details in my game, won't take any extended break from playing TE in the time until next year and even though I will have a tight schedule in real life for most parts of next year (especially around Australian Open I will struggle :p) I will give my best to remain among Top 8. Good luck to the remaining players in WTF and those in other tournaments!
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Re: ITST World Tour Finals 2013

Postby C4iLL » Thu, 28 Nov 2013 16:26

Beyond the lack of realism or whatever mental consideration, I really think there is a huge problem with netcords and defense in the game. There is too much advantage for defense everybody agrees with that, but what I want to point out here, is that netcords tend to contribute massively to this "premium defense".

Maybe some of you consider these netcords as a lack of luck, but after 2 seasons playing this game, I can tell you there is no luck in the way netcords are generated. It's like 8 times out of 10 the guy in defense which gets this miraculous netcord and wins the point. Some people here even know how to produce it I'm sure (Sorauze told me he can more or less control that for instance...).

For me this is totally unacceptable for various reasons :
- It kills competition. I personally led 1 set 0, 5-3 in tie-break, I had the mental edge vs the n°1 ITST Richie, I was surely about to win the match. I dominate the two next exchanges, should have been reward with a logical victory in two sets. Instead, I lost this set with 2 **** netcords winners generated by 2 defensive mooves and I lost the match at the end.
VMoe's case is absolutely similar and perhaps even worst.

The problem is that defense is still advantaged... These defenders don't need this bonus-ability to hit miraculous netcords winners : it not only kill your dynamic, it kill sets, mental, it changes the whole paradigm of matches.
What's the point to help defenders with that ? All these defensive netcords, should just go in the net and be UE for the author !

- It's not realistic. When you're in defense, you hit high rebound trajectory shots to slow things, no shots close to the net...

- It's not fun for both players. The winner feels confused and if he wins because of that, where's the satisfaction ? The looser, I let you imagine how frustrated he can be if he takes competition quite seriously.

And I can find a lot of other reasons to erase this but I think these one are already sufficient. Today, nobody can contest the WTF results are biaised because of that, it's not a legend it's true facts and I think it should be adressed. It's too frequent at the high level and it happens on almost every close matches...
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