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Postby Moralspain » Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:20

djarvik wrote::P ah as much as I respect her game, not a chance. I doubt she can take set of any top 100 ATP player.


It was she who said she could beat a guy right?, Serena please don't give yourself airs!! and talk nonsense. According to other WTA players she has no chance against a 500 ATP player.

Being more modest, that's what this woman needs, i can't admire a person acting always with aggressive manners and being so arrogant towards others, her conduct and attitude don't show sportsmanship.

She's a great great tennis player but she will never be a great sportswoman, if she doesn't change that a bit.
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:20

Moralspain wrote:
djarvik wrote::P ah as much as I respect her game, not a chance. I doubt she can take set of any top 100 ATP player.


It was she who said she could beat a guy right?, Serena please don't give yourself airs!! and talk nonsense. According to other WTA players she has no chance against a 500 ATP player.

Being more modest, that's what this woman needs, i can't admire a person acting always with aggressive manners and being so arrogant towards others, her conduct and attitude don't show sportsmanship.

She's a great great tennis player but she will never be a great sportswoman, if she doesn't change that a bit.



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Postby Otlichno » Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:50

Moralspain wrote:It was she who said she could beat a guy right?


No.
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Postby Moralspain » Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:27

Otlichno wrote:
Moralspain wrote:It was she who said she could beat a guy right?


No.


During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38 ). before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."
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Postby L Sanchez MD » Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:04

Moralspain wrote:
Otlichno wrote:
Moralspain wrote:It was she who said she could beat a guy right?


No.


During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38 ). before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."


I never tire of hearing this story :lol:
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Postby Otlichno » Sat, 15 Sep 2012 00:32

Moralspain wrote:
Otlichno wrote:
Moralspain wrote:It was she who said she could beat a guy right?


No.


During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38 ). before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."


Oh sorry, I didn't realize things she said when she was 15-16, playing her first main tour matches, were being used to judge her character and sportsmanship for the rest of her career.

Here is a slightly less immature Serena commenting on the matter.

http://www.mid-day.com/opinion/2010/jul ... Tennis.htm
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Postby L Sanchez MD » Sat, 15 Sep 2012 00:35

She was 17 then, not 15-16, and her age doesn't change the fact that she said it...
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Postby Otlichno » Sat, 15 Sep 2012 03:58

She was 16. And I'm not saying that it takes away what she said, I'm saying that using it as a basis to make her seem like less of a sportswoman is a bit ridiculous.

I was assuming MoralSpain was talking about the recent interview, where she said the exact opposite of what she had said earlier, I did not know of this interview in 1998, that was a mistake on my part.
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Postby Moralspain » Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:34

I don't care if she was 16 or 2, she was an arrogant person then, she's an arrogant person now, if you check my first post you'll see that my biggest problem with her is not her talent (she's talented) but she's attitude.

and my bad, i shouldn't have talked about sportsmanship, it's probably not a lack of sportsmanship, it's just that she's arrogant, not the same things, so sorry for that.

I respect some people like that aspect of her, i don't.

In my opinion she has a lot to learn from Fed, she's not a good example for kids.
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Re: Go Serena!

Postby BluudyEEfingaz » Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:02

Someone who has survived growing up in one of the worst inner cities in America, making superior test scores in school while learning to play tennis in some of the worst gang territories. Someone who continues playing a match after being heckled, with some lunatic shouting at her the "N" word. Someone who after her sister was murdered, came back to win ten more Grand Slam titles. Someone who's opened two schools in Africa, donated to Hurricane Katrina, Haitian victims, and lended her time and efforts to many other charities. This would indeed be a role model for the masses. A wise person once said, "Let not the words of my tongue distract me from my purpose." This woman realizes her purpose and far more. Granted, no one is without fault. Even Federer has his bad days cursing Umpires, throwing rackets early in his career or downplaying his opponents in interviews, this does not mean he isn't a good role model, and the same for Serena. I'm a cheerleader for this woman, she represents to me what it means to overcome even in the face of what seems to be the worst odds. It won't change how anyone else feels, but again I say, actions speak louder than words.
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Re: Go Serena!

Postby Moralspain » Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:32

BluudyEEfingaz wrote:Someone who has survived growing up in one of the worst inner cities in America, making superior test scores in school while learning to play tennis in some of the worst gang territories. Someone who continues playing a match after being heckled, with some lunatic shouting at her the "N" word. Someone who after her sister was murdered, came back to win ten more Grand Slam titles. Someone who's opened two schools in Africa, donated to Hurricane Katrina, Haitian victims, and lended her time and efforts to many other charities. This would indeed be a role model for the masses. A wise person once said, "Let not the words of my tongue distract me from my purpose." This woman realizes her purpose and far more. Granted, no one is without fault. Even Federer has his bad days cursing Umpires, throwing rackets early in his career or downplaying his opponents in interviews, this does not mean he isn't a good role model, and the same for Serena. I'm a cheerleader for this woman, she represents to me what it means to overcome even in the face of what seems to be the worst odds. It won't change how anyone else feels, but again I say, actions speak louder than words.


actually, you know more things about her than me, that's obvious, i had no idea about all things you just typed. (schools, Katrina etc)
As always happens in these situations with professional athletes , we just know a few things about them, only what media thinks is interesting, which is usually crap, the same thing happens, in my case, with Nadal, i get news about him almost without "intermediaries", so i get mad (well...i laugh inside) when i read all the bullshit about his knees etc on international forums.
So sorry because i clearly don't have all the info about her to give a proper opinion.
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Re: Go Serena!

Postby BluudyEEfingaz » Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:03

Xavi...we simply just give our opinions on here. Sometimes we agree...sometimes we do not...no biggie...but I appreciate you for considering my opinions as well. :D Can't wait to see you possibly playing WTT!
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Re: Go Serena!

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Postby Amazing Matheja » Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:01

Honestly (and this is not to put oil on fire), but I was a bit shock by "She was an arrogant person then, she is an arrogant person now"... People can change Xavi, no ? Specially a person who is 18 years old...
EDIT : I'm sure you more or less agree with all that Xavi... Just wanted to say that I hate those kind of sentences...

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Postby Corbon » Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:39

During the 1998 Australian Open, sisters Serena and Venus Williams boasted that they could beat any man ranked outside the world's top 200. The challenge was accepted by Karsten Braasch, a German player ranked No 203 (his highest ranking was No 38 ). before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."[/quote]

Oh sorry, I didn't realize things she said when she was 15-16, playing her first main tour matches, were being used to judge her character and sportsmanship for the rest of her career.

Here is a slightly less immature Serena commenting on the matter.

http://www.mid-day.com/opinion/2010/jul ... Tennis.htm[/quote]

Funny that it was McEnroe who started it again, the biggest a**hole the tennis world has ever seen. Compared to him and his on-court antics everyone else including Safin, Roddick and Serena is a schoolboy/girl.
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