Tram line serving.

[ray237]

There are too many players in itst who usually do tram line serves... i think it's a shame, because itst is an elite community with fair and strict rules.
This must come to an end, i just finished a itst match in which my opponent served all the time tram line serves and used slice serves to make this shame worse...

The rule, to me and to ists community, is:
Slice serves are allowed (even in sim tour), but only if you serve correctly and fairly. To do it, you need to serve from the strict middle (sim tour) or at maximum a foot far from the middle (regular tour). After that, all kind of serves are allowed. ZPS (zero power serves) are another cheese tactic and must not be used.

Honestly, i think that the rules need to be clearer, because there are some fair people that understand them although they aren't clear, but most of people have low IQ or just try to be clever and find a way to cheat without violating the rules (like the ones who use tram line just in the most important points or the ones who begin to drop shot just in the tiebreak, etc.).
If you want to cheat or play with cheese tactics just to win a match, please leave the itst community and opt for the world tour.
Does anyone agree?

[L Sanchez MD]

I don't recall this "one foot from the middle" being in the rules, and it doesn't make sense.

Why shouldn't I be allowed to serve from halfway across my service box?

This isn't quite half-way, but again, it isn't one foot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klrk8FOP ... re=related

Of course Top Spin =/= real life, but I think you should be allowed to use the angles that are legally there in the tennis game, provided you aren't playing cheesily. If you're tramline serving anyway, you've completely left the other side of the court open for a DTL winner, which is why people don't do it IRL.

(Note: I always serve from the centre, but I'm playing devil's advocate, and we aren't just talking sim here.)

[Dark-Disaster]

Oddly enough, people who tramline serve against me usually don't suceed. Maybe I haven't played anybody who's good at it lol.

I don't find tramline serving that hard to play against. I just stand more to the right (or left in the ad side)

[edlglide]

I don't recall this "one foot from the middle" being in the rules, and it doesn't make sense.

Why shouldn't I be allowed to serve from halfway across my service box?

This isn't quite half-way, but again, it isn't one foot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klrk8FOP ... re=related

Of course Top Spin =/= real life, but I think you should be allowed to use the angles that are legally there in the tennis game, provided you aren't playing cheesily. If you're tramline serving anyway, you've completely left the other side of the court open for a DTL winner, which is why people don't do it IRL.

(Note: I always serve from the centre, but I'm playing devil's advocate, and we aren't just talking sim here.)

The reason tramline serving is banned is twofold -- one, it's nearly impossible to hit a DTL return winner even with perfect timing, so that tactic doesn't work the way it would in real life. The other reason is that there's an actual glitch in the game where if you serve hard from the tramline it goes faster and is harder to return than if you serve from a normal position.

I usually beat tramline servers on WT too, but if you come up against someone with high serve ratings who is actually a good player, it's incredibly difficult to do anything against their serve.

[L Sanchez MD]

There are plenty other strategies to return serve other than DTL winner, but I agree that it's inherently flawed, and doesn't work quite like real life.

[KDZaster]

This isn't about tramline serving. He's complaning that people aren't dead center when they serve. Which is kinda gay.

People seem to try to stretch the tramline serve rule to the limit.
do you want to know what the rule actually is asking?

make sure you are way closer to the center line when you serve then you are to the double line.

[Rob ITST]

The biggest problem is that the game naturally moves you wider as the match progresses.

We have a rule, that says you must move towards the center to compensate for this, but I'll see if we can come up with something better.

I'm open to suggestions on this.

[OuiMr BersonBANNED]

The biggest problem is that the game naturally moves you wider as the match progresses.

We have a rule, that says you must move towards the center to compensate for this, but I'll see if we can come up with something better.

I'm open to suggestions on this.

We have rules like that but nothing against 100 Power character.

[ray237]

The biggest problem is that the game naturally moves you wider as the match progresses.

We have a rule, that says you must move towards the center to compensate for this, but I'll see if we can come up with something better.

I'm open to suggestions on this.

Yes i meant this. And yeah in reg tour you can stay 2 Feet from Middle but not too wide. I think that a strict regulament must be written in a new sticked thread and it must be clear (for example it myst say the exact number of Feet you can be far from middle).
Tls is a counterable tactic but i honestly i dont understand why it should be' allowed, because in all cases it gives an unfair and unrealistic advantage to' the server

[Andymachine]

The biggest problem is that the game naturally moves you wider as the match progresses.

We have a rule, that says you must move towards the center to compensate for this, but I'll see if we can come up with something better.

I'm open to suggestions on this.

Agreed and its actually easy to forget its happening , i wish theyd fix that glitch , when people do it to me , its a nightmare sometimes all i can do is throw up a lob and just hope it doesnt give them the opportuinty to smash but even then it gives them so much time to blast a winner , and its v fristrating lol

[ray237]

In fact the problem isn't that tls is uncounterable, but is that it lets the player to build up a point from nothing and without a minimum skill...

[Ibooman]

Agree entirely with this!