US Open Final, some thoughts

[Avinash PatelBANNED]

To Loki, at first I was going to rspnd to one of ur posts but I hv lost count of how many times u have attacked me in the lst 24hrs in multiple posts. The last post from u is out of line saying that u would for sure beat me if i took a diff player and tht I only got to the final be becuz of my abusive setup. This is quite a statement considering u hv never played me. I have not said anything to u at all so far so ur attacks r not entirely fair.

I wud like to say sum thing here and I hope u take this on board.

I hv never played you, u and I both hv come from nowhere and are in a grand slam final! We shud rejoice that we hv come so far. U hv beaten the best players so I am sure u have a talent tht other plyrs maybe don't hv. This means tht u are on path to be a champion. But to truly be a champion u need to make sure u not only play like a champion, but ACT like a champion. With grace and respect for ur opponent (unless they are brking rules).

So - let us let our rackets talk this weekend when we battle it out. May the better man win.

Good luck, Avi

[LokiSharpShootr]

Yow you need to take me less seriously man, havent you seen my posts???

im always arguing with someone dude its nothing personal, i like to express my opinion and discuss with someone that has a diferent opinion from mine(spirit of lawyers lets say).

So as i said its nothing personal, i just think your setup is a little unfair but then so is mine.

Good Luck on the final Bro. where´s that picture card??? did you get yet???

[Rob ITST]

i just think your setup is a little unfair but then so is mine.

I have more trouble with the Welch setup than I do with the 98/98 setup. But that is because I use a lot of inside out shots, and it's very hard to make Welch hit a ball that isn't on the line. Also, I find slow shots much harder to time than fast shots, so I make fewer "perfect" shots against Welch - other people may have the opposite problem.

IMO, there are 4 dominant setups: 98/98, Welch, IR/CPS, and Kelly. Depending on how you play, one of them is going to seem stronger than the others. I think it is much better than any previous TopSpin game, where there was usually one dominant setup. At least now, we have the four main play styles: Big server, hard hitting baseliner, defensive baseliner, and serve & volley.

[LokiSharpShootr]

i just think your setup is a little unfair but then so is mine.

I have more trouble with the Welch setup than I do with the 98/98 setup. But that is because I use a lot of inside out shots, and it's very hard to make Welch hit a ball that isn't on the line. Also, I find slow shots much harder to time than fast shots, so I make fewer "perfect" shots against Welch - other people may have the opposite problem.

IMO, there are 4 dominant setups: 98/98, Welch, IR/CPS, and Kelly. Depending on how you play, one of them is going to seem stronger than the others. I think it is much better than any previous TopSpin game, where there was usually one dominant setup. At least now, we have the four main play styles: Big server, hard hitting baseliner, defensive baseliner, and serve & volley.

The thing is i´ve never played a really good 98/98 so im kinda getting a little nervous cause i heard people saying that it gets some amazing servers and crazy power shots.

Its kinda nervwraking keep reading that in the right hands is a monster, that its impossible to break and bla bla bla

[Rob ITST]

I think Babb vs Welch is a perfect power vs speed matchup. Strategy and skill should be the deciding factors in that match.

[Indiantonike]

I think Babb vs Welch is a perfect power vs speed matchup. Strategy and skill should be the deciding factors in that match.

Babb ... skill ... Ahaha man, what a good joke !

[Avinash PatelBANNED]

I think Babb vs Welch is a perfect power vs speed matchup. Strategy and skill should be the deciding factors in that match.

Babb ... skill ... Ahaha man, what a good joke !

Is there any need for ths? Rob is mkin a valid point. Uf curz u wud like to hv all skill sets banned which u lose to. Live and let live.

[LokiSharpShootr]

I think Babb vs Welch is a perfect power vs speed matchup. Strategy and skill should be the deciding factors in that match.

Babb ... skill ... Ahaha man, what a good joke !

Is there any need for ths? Rob is mkin a valid point. Uf curz u wud like to hv all skill sets banned which u lose to. Live and let live.

Avinash, be serious your whole setup is build around acing, what skill do you need to play like this??? where´s the fun, the respect for your opponent???

Face it man as long as you use that setup it will earn you 0 respect among the other players.

[Indiantonike]

I think Babb vs Welch is a perfect power vs speed matchup. Strategy and skill should be the deciding factors in that match.

Babb ... skill ... Ahaha man, what a good joke !

Is there any need for ths? Rob is mkin a valid point. Uf curz u wud like to hv all skill sets banned which u lose to. Live and let live.

Woot, so much arguments.

I have no problem when losing, I just have problem when I lose against people like you who use a stupid/unfair character. You know that this char is cheated.

PS: Your posts are illegible

[OuiMr BersonBANNED]

I think Babb vs Welch is a perfect power vs speed matchup. Strategy and skill should be the deciding factors in that match.

Babb ... skill ... Ahaha man, what a good joke !

Is there any need for ths? Rob is mkin a valid point. Uf curz u wud like to hv all skill sets banned which u lose to. Live and let live.

Woot, so much arguments.

I have no problem when losing, I just have problem when I lose against people like you who use a stupid/unfair character. You know that this char is cheated.

PS: Your posts are illegible

Me too I have no problem when losing.
In fact I didn't know I never lose OMG.

[RainingAmoeba79]

I think Babb vs Welch is a perfect power vs speed matchup. Strategy and skill should be the deciding factors in that match.

Babb ... skill ... Ahaha man, what a good joke !

Is there any need for ths? Rob is mkin a valid point. Uf curz u wud like to hv all skill sets banned which u lose to. Live and let live.

Avinash, be serious your whole setup is build around acing, what skill do you need to play like this??? where´s the fun, the respect for your opponent???

Face it man as long as you use that setup it will earn you 0 respect among the other players.

Guess Roddick and Karlovic are not respected after all.

And what is skillful about 90+ strokes with welch?

[LokiSharpShootr]

I think Babb vs Welch is a perfect power vs speed matchup. Strategy and skill should be the deciding factors in that match.

Babb ... skill ... Ahaha man, what a good joke !

Is there any need for ths? Rob is mkin a valid point. Uf curz u wud like to hv all skill sets banned which u lose to. Live and let live.

Avinash, be serious your whole setup is build around acing, what skill do you need to play like this??? where´s the fun, the respect for your opponent???

Face it man as long as you use that setup it will earn you 0 respect among the other players.

Guess Roddick and Karlovic are not respected after all.

And what is skillful about 90+ strokes with welch?

Since when we played a SIM match i won 5-1 then you left i dont know what you´re talking about.

Ohh and we were both using Fortis too.

[Rob ITST]

Avinash, be serious your whole setup is build around acing, what skill do you need to play like this??? where´s the fun, the respect for your opponent???

Face it man as long as you use that setup it will earn you 0 respect among the other players.

I disagree. Yes, it is a build with a high focus on serve, but what else? Once you get into a rally, almost every other setup has the advantage.

And one thing I always like to point out about big serves - they don't do you any good on return games.

Since you've never even played him, I think you've reached your verdict before the trial has even started.

@Indiantonike, and everyone else who is against this setup:

How many tournaments have you won by using this setup?

[LokiSharpShootr]

Avinash, be serious your whole setup is build around acing, what skill do you need to play like this??? where´s the fun, the respect for your opponent???

Face it man as long as you use that setup it will earn you 0 respect among the other players.

I disagree. Yes, it is a build with a high focus on serve, but what else? Once you get into a rally, almost every other setup has the advantage.

And one thing I always like to point out about big serves - they don't do you any good on return games.

Since you've never even played him, I think you've reached your verdict before the trial has even started.

@Indiantonike, and everyone else who is against this setup:

How many tournaments have you won by using this setup?

Fair enough, were waiting for his recordind device to be delievered so we can post the final here anyway, i think that the video will show if any of our builds are unfair.

[SIeeepy]

I think Babb vs Welch is a perfect power vs speed matchup. Strategy and skill should be the deciding factors in that match.

Babb ... skill ... Ahaha man, what a good joke !

Is there any need for ths? Rob is mkin a valid point. Uf curz u wud like to hv all skill sets banned which u lose to. Live and let live.

Avinash, be serious your whole setup is build around acing, what skill do you need to play like this??? where´s the fun, the respect for your opponent???

Face it man as long as you use that setup it will earn you 0 respect among the other players.

Guess Roddick and Karlovic are not respected after all.

And what is skillful about 90+ strokes with welch?

Weeeelllll Roddick and Karlovic can't really do much after they serve. Or hit a screaming winner if the opponent gets the ball back. Or get a look at the opponents return. All of which is capable in Top Spin. Idk what i'm arguing lol. I guess that we can't compare real tennis with Top Spin