I'm out

[petrelli83]

I think the best thing to do (and I am talking to myself now) is to avoid any discussions with them, about them.....act like they don't exist....let them enjoy their universe.

when I joined the tour.I admit i used a lot of risk short slice...
noone told me anything and I think it was a good tactic...it seemed to me the only way to be competitive...
but once I played with u an old Sim match and u told me that I was using too many risk short slice and it was cheesy...by that moment I didn't use them anymore and changed my game....

so the moral is:everyone,when meet "slice bandit",should try to tell them that's wrong...maybe they don't know that risk slice are considered cheesy...and maybe they could change their style...or maybe they don't care and they want only win...

am I too much naive?

[Lonamer11]

Alex i know what you mean.
Just played Oshiee i dident have lag and this was a MS match not MSS but I just can't believe how fake he places RISK Only player and makes all the return you can name it with risk and he stands on the line when he returns I had no fun at all lost 6-2 6-2 6-2 -.-
I seriousy wanted to quit I had 1 winner against 64 of his RISK ONLY winners -.-

I agree with you andman. I know the risk-slice is very upsetting sometimes and in combination wit terribly lag its like hell. But risk return L2 R2 is for me just as terrible maybe even more. the risk slice is counterable where the risk return is not. I remembered i played oshiee and it was close but it wasn't fun at all. he forced me to play his game which is risk return at all times. and he's so good at that, that it isn't even funny anymore. I was so upset that day, but it didn't forced me to quit. There are a players who are clean players just as those other guys says.

So alex i never had the chance to play you, but frm what i heard you are a fantastic player. So as a itst player i would be glad if you would stay so i can have a chance to play you someday

[SoundfSilence]

yea, the point is not that they slice or whatever. i didn't make this clear, the main point is how furious i got. its a video game, i shouldn't be punching a wall because i lost to some "slice bandit".

Hope you didn't punch like this guy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQpcO8x6 ... o_response

brgrfliper has already said exactly what I would have said (every point he made ).

I enjoyed playing good friendly matches, but to me nothing can beat a good close tournament match. It takes TS3 to another level. My view would be, take a break since you're busy and come when you have time.

Petrelli is also right. Sometimes these players don't know what they're doing is cheesy.. so it's up to us, to send them nice and gentle message to inform them.

[Andymachine]

i dont think risk is cheesy , i will admit tho that short slice in this game can be difficult to counter

[DarkPaladin87]

In terms of risk returning i consider slice risk returning cheesy. You can't really counter it, it's lame.

During rallies i risk too, i have to else i will get overpowered\outrallied. However i don't spam them, i only use them when i see an opening.

I've never played anyone who constant risk slices and i pray i never ever have to. I won't be able to respect their game, let alone having a conversation with them. As djarvik said leave them in risk slicing land.

[VillaJ100]

yea, the point is not that they slice or whatever. i didn't make this clear, the main point is how furious i got. its a video game, i shouldn't be punching a wall

EXACTLY what i as doing when i let you lob me in our semi. 4 times in a row.

But yeah, you shuldnt leave for one cheap player. if everyone done that it would end up like that equitiesindallas tour O_o lol

[Otlichno]

Yeah in a recent ITST match I was put up against Lonamer, he said right here how he thought the risk return was the "worst" but he used that quite often and he short risked sliced allot. I won the first set but in the second on my serve he used the risk returns he "hates" so much and broke me, and from there whenever I had a chance to break him he would short risk slice and win the point. It's to the point where I feel I have to learn how to short risk slice properly now because it will be the only way I can beat people like him.

[Mack2300]

The main thing that drives me nuts is if my opponent does a short risk slice as the follow up to their serve. It just looks so stupidly unrealistic and is so hard to counter. At least attempt to dropshot if you are gonna use that tactic.

[Lonamer11]

Yeah in a recent ITST match I was put up against Lonamer, he said right here how he thought the risk return was the "worst" but he used that quite often and he short risked sliced allot. I won the first set but in the second on my serve he used the risk returns he "hates" so much and broke me, and from there whenever I had a chance to break him he would short risk slice and win the point. It's to the point where I feel I have to learn how to short risk slice properly now because it will be the only way I can beat people like him.

well if you read my comment well you would have understand it better. I'm talking about the R2 L2 return. My return is all about accuracy nothing more. the difference from the 1st en 2nd set was i read your serve far better but i wasn't risking all the time. and when i'm risk slicing it is because i was in trouble and needed to get back in the rally and i changed the slice from short to long to get you of your game. When i used a short one, i needed to draw you close to the net and when i used a long one i thaught you were close to the baseline. maybe i did win a few points but my intention wasn't to win the point that way. it is to get a better ball to look at. So if you really thought it was cheap i'm sorry. But why didn't you just told me ???? after the match

[brgerflipr]

Played many times w/ Lonamer, he's definitely not a cheap player. Actually, he's one of the cleanest in my opinion. His timing is VERY good, so his shots are pretty deep and he uses L2 very well. But there are tons of other players that come to mind when I think of cheap slices and dirty play.

[coke4]

Yea Lonamar only uses, or at least seemingly, L2 for return

[djarvik]

I also do not remember Lomnamer being cheap or anything, not to say that he didn't change to the dark side As far as I remember, he was a clean player with top notch timing.

However, I don't like the "get out of trouble" risk slice, as Lonamer just described. It's like saying, hey, I won't play cheap, unless I am in trouble. maybe I am wrong.....but when in trouble, you have a choice of a few plays...especially on the run...including L2 long deep slice - defensive slice...or counter punching with risk...anything.....chossing short slice is a clear decision of picking the most effective shot in the game, to bail yourself out....which makes sence for a "video game".


Anyway....if you don't abuse it and mix it in now and then (not only when in trouble) its' fine with me.

But to each his own.

[tonedawg1]

lonamer dont play cheap but if i remember correctly he got everysingle ball that was hit

[Vieira151]

I also do not remember Lomnamer being cheap or anything, not to say that he didn't change to the dark side As far as I remember, he was a clean player with top notch timing.

However, I don't like the "get out of trouble" risk slice, as Lonamer just described. It's like saying, hey, I won't play cheap, unless I am in trouble. maybe I am wrong.....but when in trouble, you have a choice of a few plays...especially on the run...including L2 long deep slice - defensive slice...or counter punching with risk...anything.....chossing short slice is a clear decision of picking the most effective shot in the game, to bail yourself out....which makes sence for a "video game".


Anyway....if you don't abuse it and mix it in now and then (not only when in trouble) its' fine with me.

But to each his own.

See if i play the short defensive slice in real life when i am in trouble, am i legally allowed to use it in TS3?

[djarvik]

Short defensive slice in real life? ...are you playing in 75+ tour?