Is short slice cheesy?

[picachu211]

Are you even reading the shit you are typing?
You just admitted the 2 occasions after I pointed out them, and suddenly I am a liar? Just because you have changed?

Sure, you have a life. Then why are you so obsessed with this? Everyone knows you play this and you play that, but if you don't know tennis that well, then please zip it cause you are making a fool out of yourself.

[Coolhand Texas]

This just showed how mature you are.
Just because he tried to sabotage ITST does not mean he does not speak the truth all the time.
Right is right and wrong is wrong.

hmm so lying about not being a member before doesnt make him a liar. Thats what he was is a liar. He lied and created another account after being banned.

Hey once again, get your facts straight, it always helpful

[picachu211]

@ your logic. Why am I wasting my time here?

[Coolhand Texas]

:lol: @ your logic. Why am I wasting my time here?

please explain yourself?

you said that him undermining itst does not make his word not true. but being a liar which he is . How can you trust his word??

like i said you 2 are the only ones to say that, and he was a liar and that can be proven.

and if you really wanted to get an honest answer about short slicing in this thread you would have just asked the question, but you wanted to start something by saying all the other stuff

Ill create a poll so you can get your answer

[Rob ITST]

You guys need to take your fight somewhere else.

[Coolhand Texas]

yea sorry about that Rob, some times i let things get under my skin.

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

i see that this is not about 1 shoot ,or is short slice cheesy . its a general problem between both itst player.

now both have sayed his side and opinion -now its time to calm down .

lock the thread

[Coolhand Texas]

i agree with GOA lock the thread, nothing good can come out of this

[emate007]

Grapes are an excellent source of vitamins A and C.

El queso es viejo y mohoso. Donde esta el bano?

[ACERBOMB]

Wow , that is all I can say about this little rumble. LOL

[Moralspain]

Grapes are an excellent source of vitamins A and C.

El queso es viejo y mohoso. Donde esta el bano?

, i like grapes.....and cheese too

[ANILTJE]

Look it's very easy.

Hitting a short slice like Roger Federer does is very hard to pull off on a regular basis in real. That's why it's amazing when he does it.

Sadly the (short) slice in TS3 and actually all slices in the TS series have been way overpowered. Same was in TS2.
That's why you see people also stand inside the baseline returning with short slices in the WT.

Some people hit them on key points in the rallies , and they hit them when someone is far behind the baseline. In that case a dropshot would just be more in place.
The short slice is just easier to pull off. So also the reason why people decide to hit a short slice instead of a dropshot. Cause the dropshot can fail and can then be countered. The short slice falls dead. And then will be a winner.
Nothing more ugly then people hitting a shot slice winner lol. You don't see that very often in real.

I have a bit the same when people are at the net. There are no people who actually hit a dropvolley. People will just hit a short LT-X. Way easier to pull off. And more effective in this game then a drop volley.
But again the dropvolley needs more skills and timing.

I hit dropshots against people like Coolhand who stand 600 meters behind the baseline to return . I will even hit them in a row if he stays behind and doesnt wanna move. I know that I will miss some or he'll crush the ball and will loose the point also. But if I were to hit a short slice I would win the point. But just prefer not to cause it just looks and feels buggy in TS3.

[jayl0ve]

'Hitting a short slice like Roger Federer does is very hard to pull off on a regular basis in real.'

True, but so are many of the missiles that I've hit in TS3. I don't see anybody consistently hitting every groundstroke in a rally over 100 mph. But it's definitely possible in TS3.

And why do you care that people choose to hit LT+X volleys instead of drop shot (right stick) volleys??? Is the most difficult shot the only 'true' or 'acceptable' shot??? Isn't the best shot the one that gets the job done with the least effort/risk????

TBH I can see where Equities got really frustrated with some of you guys. There's some bizarre 'code of honor' at work here where everybody is under pressure to hit the most difficult shots, play with the worst character, play in a certain way, etc, and certain people are made to feel bad because they don't play in some way that satisfies the sensibilities of others.

[ANILTJE]

I don't really care. If it makes you happy to do so go for it. But yeah I do think it's awesome when people actually use the shots that would be in place in a real tennis match.

It's just the sim that attracts me.

[Baghdad Baghdatis]

'Hitting a short slice like Roger Federer does is very hard to pull off on a regular basis in real.'

True, but so are many of the missiles that I've hit in TS3. I don't see anybody consistently hitting every groundstroke in a rally over 100 mph. But it's definitely possible in TS3.

And why do you care that people choose to hit LT+X volleys instead of drop shot (right stick) volleys??? Is the most difficult shot the only 'true' or 'acceptable' shot??? Isn't the best shot the one that gets the job done with the least effort/risk????

TBH I can see where Equities got really frustrated with some of you guys. There's some bizarre 'code of honor' at work here where everybody is under pressure to hit the most difficult shots, play with the worst character, play in a certain way, etc, and certain people are made to feel bad because they don't play in some way that satisfies the sensibilities of others.

I absolutely agree with Jayl0ve here.

Furthermore I do not see the issue with risk slice every now and then to be honest. I use it in matches at times, mostly defensive when I am running across court to try and defend the ball back, either cross court or down the line, and either x+LT, or x+RT+Lt or X+Rt or just x!!

Also like Picachu said, if i get a use risk shot hit at me i may choose to slow the pace down by hitting a risk slice. It makes up only about 5% of my game so i don't abuse it because there are plenty of other shots out there on the market!

Now i am remember playing a guy called 'Realloddy' when i first starting playing on ITST and this guy played risk slice pretty much every single shot. It was annoying and very weird tennis (all credit to him he doesnt play that way anymore as much). Now that to me was CHEESY. But to play the occasional risk slice, is, as i said to Anil a while ago, JUST ANOTHER CHOICE OF SHOT.

Now I played Noberto H before in SIM and won 4-6, 6-3, 6-4 and this guy risks flat every single point. It takes alot of skill but it is darn hard to deal with and the points are always short and I continously find myself defending every point and try and force him into error.

However, that is his game, and he is a great player, and he, like me, hits the odd risk slice to defend or mix it up but i certainly ain't writing every time he hits a risk slice down in my little note book whilst i am playing and then say it cheesy and then QUIT!! Quitting is for loosers, I have never quit a match on someone, got too much respect and maturity for that.

The rules in ITST define what is cheesy play (serving wide & inside the baseline) and so i reckon people need to just leave the shot alone.

Its only a very few select number of people who don't like this (and therefore i see don't play the shot - fair enough) but there are loads who don't mention it and play the shot and don't bat an eyelid.

I don't mind if the Poll comes out with more in favour of cheesy than not because most of the people who live in these forums probably think its cheesy, but the ones that dont post, of which there are many, will not have a supporting vote