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Do you like "linedancing" or not?

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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:18

Norberto H wrote:
Like I said, linedancing ONLY helps you dealing with an obvious glitch (freezing), otherwise there is no advantage doing it! If my opponent is mentaly not strong enough to concentrate on his game and gets confused, it is his problem, not mine...

Also it seems ridiculous to me, that especially those guys complain about linedancing, who use Roddick serve + a left-handed player - this is by the way a trend, that is getting more and more extreme - around 80 % of the topplayers use lefties right now it seems.
The problem is, that the game is not very balanced about that aspect, and it becomes so much easier hitting aces - eventhough you get aced more often yourself, that means, that it is easier to hold serve...
But I have no problem with it, just play your game tzhe way you want, but don't complain about anyone linedancing etc., when you try to have an advantage using lefties, fast serves etc. yourself.


its not only to return better or not ! its what i said earlier
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equiete seriously ,it really disturb my concentration by my serve. and this not happens only by me.

some people have no problem with that linedancing - fine -be happy lucky man
but here are also people by itst where have big problems with that behavior .

that i wrote earlier too- everybody can linedance about me
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however: everybody is welcome to start dancing about me - i will start fastserve and other annoying stuff .!!

like fansound over microphone or permanently short doubletrigger slice -serve C !!



i say to everyone -play fair and i play fair .or let it
BTW: i play my player since......6-7 month . allways the same
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Postby ANILTJE » Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:24

I don't think you can compare Ts3 with Ts1.

In the previous versions serving was not hard nor did it give you a advantage to be on serve.

Serving can be harder in Ts3 specially if you serve with the stick.
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Postby djarvik » Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:39

What really helps returns is a 6'9 player. I have tried this morning :P I can clearly put more balls in on return.

Linedancing while someone bounces the ball 2-3 times is unnecessary.

All you need is a split step and your player is mobile, right before the server strikes the ball.

People that best return my serve, stand still actually: Rob, Moralspain, Anteros, Swifty, Coolhand.....and the best returner pond for pond is Chederer. He feels guilty to risk all the time, but if he does....he is to me the best risk returner.

Norbero is good too, but he guesses, while Ched standing still, not a single step till I strike the serve....and he gets these risks every time.

Equity is a good returner to start with, then you add the wingspan of 6'9 - and he becomes the best.

I play as righty Norberto, and I returned your serve without line dancing just fine.....correct? :wink: ....not considering that we had 58 aces combined in our match! :shock: But you kept dancing thruout, even thou I bounced the ball 6 times on porpouse at times. I am sure the it is just a habbit right? ....as I do not serve with Rodick serve and stick. ;) cmon dude!

The best solution to line dancing is the way Coolhand returns. He simply steps back if the serve is too powerful.

What we are doing is trying to return a 140 serve and 160 speed back.

Pica didn't line dance and had no problem with any serve.

I mean the best thing to avoid line dancing, logically is if you use Rodicks serve, bounce the ball twice.......if you see opponent still line dancing.....then I don't know :? I guess he is trying to annoy you, right? :?


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Postby ANILTJE » Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:45

Pica does a little linedance. Which is more a setp then linedancing. There is a difference :-)
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Postby djarvik » Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:47

ANILTJE wrote:Pica does a little linedance. Which is more a setp then linedancing. There is a difference :-)


Exactly! That is what I do too. And 99% of anyone who actually able to return a single serve LOL
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:54

1-2 steps for positioning to return is not linedancing !!
you must make a step to reach the serve . its nothing wrong with that

linedancing is a 5 second dance from left to right to annoy and disturb the serve !!this have nothing to do with positioning for returning
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Postby Rob ITST » Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:38

I've honestly never played any line dancer who I thought was a good returner. Hitting 100% RT+LT returns, and making 5 in a set, doesn't make you a good returner.
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:42

do you consier norberto a good returner?
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:45

He doesn't consider Norberto.
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:47

oh, well then who do you consider a good returner Rob?
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:51

No, I mean he doesn't consider Norberto. I didn't say anything about returns. :lol:

For my serve:
CHEDERER, Pica, Anteros, Swifty and Tansu. All of them mix returns well and know when to risk. All of them have a tremendous "next shot".
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Postby EquitiesindallasBANNED » Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:40

In my opinion Norbeto's biggest strength are his returns and point winning ability. He wins the big points and thus, the big matches. That's what differentiates him from people who lose key matches.

Re: his 100% risking, you know its commendable and awesome that he can execute high risk shots so comfortably. Don't hate the playa, hate the game!

In my opinion when people have trouble with someone's game its mainly because they secretly wish they could have some part of that game in their own. Everyone wants to win, to be no.1 and to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOA4ixV-3jU

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Postby Norberto H » Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:13

A 6'9 players usually helps, and at first I thought that this was the main reason for Equi being such a good returner, but once he played an exibition match with the smallest player possible against me, and there was not really a difference...

Also, eventhough you have some advantage on returns using a big player, there are also some REAL disadvantages - exactly like in real life.
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Postby EquitiesindallasBANNED » Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:14

Damn you told them about babyJhole! ;)
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Re: imo

Postby Coolhand Texas » Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:17

Equitiesindallas wrote:In my opinion Norbeto's biggest strength are his returns and point winning ability. He wins the big points and thus, the big matches. That's what differentiates him from people who lose key matches.

Re: his 100% risking, you know its commendable and awesome that he can execute high risk shots so comfortably. Don't hate the playa, hate the game!

In my opinion when people have trouble with someone's game its mainly because they secretly wish they could have some part of that game in their own. Everyone wants to win, to be no.1 and to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOA4ixV-3jU

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I agree with you there, i think norberto is great in returning. He usually does come up with the right stuff on the big point, and he was doing all of this before he started linedancing, so why did you start to do that?
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