SIM Pro Characters

[petrelli83]

HI GUYS...NEED HELP.HAVE CREATED NEW SIM PLAYERS.ANYONE WANT TO SUGGEST ME IF THEY ARE GOOD OR NOT AND WHAT I SHOULD CHANGE TO MAKE THEM BETTER?

SIMON
FH:72
BH:87
SV:76
RE:61
VL:50
PW:67
SP:77
ST:70

GONZALES
FH:89
BH:66
SV:73
RE:62
VL:55
PW:78
SP:72
ST:65

STEPANEK
FH:65
BH:65
SV:76
RE:50
VL:85
PW:72
SP:71
ST:76

???????
FH:73
BH:73
SV:71
BH:60
VL:50
PW:69
SP:79
ST:85

ARE THEY REALISTICS?
IS THERE A REAL PAYER(NOT HEWITT)THAT HAS THE SKILLS OF THE FOURTH PLAYER?
EVERYSUGGESTION IS ACCEPTED...
THX
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[djarvik]

My suggestions are in red:

HI GUYS...NEED HELP.HAVE CREATED NEW SIM PLAYERS.ANYONE WANT TO SUGGEST ME IF THEY ARE GOOD OR NOT AND WHAT I SHOULD CHANGE TO MAKE THEM BETTER?

SIMON
FH:72 76
BH:87 81
SV:76 54
RE:61 70
VL:50 58
PW:67 55
SP:77 78
ST:70 88

Simon has a weak serve, good return, low power (most of his shots are defense, power comes from risk) good speed and MOST importantly, great stamina to stay in the points and counter punch at the right time. I find your setup of Simon way off.

GONZALES
FH:89 89
BH:66 55
SV:73 68
RE:62 63
VL:55 61
PW:78 81
SP:72 67
ST:65 76

You definitely did a better Job with Gonzo! ...but his BH is really weak, he slices most of them and the ones he doesn't slice are all out Risks. The way to play with such setup is control and Forehand. Serve smart to get returns to your FH. Control the rallies, slice BH until ready and in position to risk. Try to "cheat over and cover the BH side, once the opponent gives you a slow ball or a bit less of an angle - run over BH and hit a FH. Don't mind the speed rating - if you find yourself slow and running to to many balls, then your strategy is wrong. You need to take charge and control points of serve, return to weaker side and anticipate...then 67 is actually fast!

STEPANEK
FH:65 64
BH:65 68
SV:76 72
RE:50 70
VL:85 72
PW:72 74
SP:71 66
ST:76 74

Stepanek lacks speed. He has everything, great anticipation, solid strokes and power, solid volley, serve and return. One thing he lacks is pure speed. If played right, this setup is very fun to play with and can hurt the opponent virtually of every place on the court!

???????
FH:73 74
BH:73 76
SV:71 51
BH:60 77
VL:50 55
PW:69 68
SP:79 79
ST:85 80

This is not Hewitt for sure. Does he have 3 hands? 2 Backhands? LOL He could be Davydenko.

ARE THEY REALISTICS?
IS THERE A REAL PAYER(NOT HEWITT)THAT HAS THE SKILLS OF THE FOURTH PLAYER?
EVERYSUGGESTION IS ACCEPTED...
THX
Laughing Laughing Laughing

[petrelli83]

THX DJARVIK...REALLY DIDN'T EXPECT SO ACCURATE EXPLAINATION Laughing

i KNOW THAT I GIVE AN HIGH SERVE TO ALL THIS FOUR PLAYER AND YOU GAVE THEM 55-68-72-51.BUT I AM AFRAID TO PLAY WITH THIS STATISCTIC 'CAUSE MY SERVE ISN'T GOOD.I AM NOT ABLE TO USE L2 SO I USUALLUALLY SERVE WITH MORE THEN 75...BUT I'LL TRY TO PLAY AS U SAID 'CAUSE I WANT TO PLAY AS REALISTIC AS POSSIBLE Laughing

U GAVE SIMON BH81 & ST88.IT'S NOT SIM Wink DO U THINK I SOULD GIVE HIM BH79?
WHICH IS GONZELEZ'S FH IN TOP SPIN?I THINK "D".U?


I HAVE OTHER IDEAS ABOUT SIM PLAYERS.ALSO WOMEN'S SIM(WAITING & HOPING 4 W SIM TOUR).I'LL POST THEM...IF U STILL WANT TO RESPOND ME I'LL BE GLAD Laughing Laughing

[Amazing Matheja]

LOL!Djarv your Simon and Gonzalez are not SIM...

[Coolhand Texas]

I didnt think gonzalez had a 50 backhand, i was thinking high 50's or low 60's. Also i thought he has pretty good speed, he does seem to reach a ton of balls, but i could be wrong as well

[Amazing Matheja]

...Also i thought he has pretty good speed, he does seem to reach a ton of balls...

Completely agree with that!It's not only fighting spirit...He surely has some great speed...He surprised me a lot of times by playing balls i 1st thought he couldn't!...

[emate007]

LOL!Djarv your Simon and Gonzalez are not SIM...

Haha, I noticed that too... But that's going to be a problem with a lot of tour players in the SIM setup. These guys are second tier stars (except maybe Gonzo) and it's still hard to make them even close to accurate without breaking the rules for SIM.

Re: djarvik's Stepanek setup:

I was really enjoying playing as a guy with 50 power and somewhere around 60 on both wings (the stats ended up looking like polar opposites in terms of colors against everyone I played on WT). Had high serve, return, and volley, and that guy resulted in some of the most entertaining matches I've ever played.

[AMAZING ZIZOU]

I didnt think gonzalez had a 50 backhand, i was thinking high 50's or low 60's. Also i thought he has pretty good speed, he does seem to reach a ton of balls, but i could be wrong as well

Gonzo's backhand is way better than we could think. I remember his match against Tsonga in the US Open.... geeez, it was really strong. He can hit some great shots from that side.
But since they're mostly "risk", i guess a high stamina could compensate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhyBVTyR ... L&index=23

[djarvik]

They are all SIM alright! They are the next generation SIM, I didn't make a mistake ....did I ever lie to you guys?

You can adjust each to comply with current ITST SIM Rules.

@petrelli83
Simon - move 2 points from BH to Return.
Gonzo - move 2 points from Power to Speed.
As for giving higher serve, no problem here, then just don't call them Simon and Gonzo. You are basically creating a itst-effective-but-still-half-way-realistic-player. Look at players in the game now, Federer - what's his serve rating? ...you think Simon has a better serve then Fed?

@Coolhand & AMAZING ZIZOU
Gonzales slices 80% of his BHs. The times that he does hit a BH he almost always risks it, resulting in either a winner or a and error. With 55BH + 81 Power you can risk that BH beautifully, and you will have to do it for it to be effective, making errors as well. Very realistic. Feds BH in game is 69 and he places his BH MUCH better then Gonzo and has more pace, consistency and versatility from that side. Again, follow the Pros in the game for guidelines.....that is the best way to get a Realistic SIM player.

@Amazing Matheja
RE: Gonzo speed. 67 is plenty. You need to learn to control points. Gonzo does NOT play defense. Yes, he can run down occasional ball on defense, but he generally prefers to be the aggressor. Again, how much Speed Federer has? ....do you think Gonzo as quick as Fed?

@emate007
I have done the same. It drives the WT opponents nuts, I get disconnections in over 50% matches. The weird thing I noticed thou, low power works great against stacked players, but in SIM, 50 power is a real challenge to overcome. This is mostly because of increased stamina in SIM, I think.

[Chederer]

djarvik......i made that delpo that you suggested...and i like him very much....i lost to coolhand 5-7 2-6....

fh79 vol55
bh69 pwr87
srv78 spd59
ret72 stm61

and you are right....i must take control of the points and rallies....because once i get pulled off the court and i try and pop it up for defense i am TOAST.....

[djarvik]

djarvik......i made that delpo that you suggested...and i like him very much....i lost to coolhand 5-7 2-6....

fh79 vol55
bh69 pwr87
srv78 spd59
ret72 stm61

and you are right....i must take control of the points and rallies....because once i get pulled off the court and i try and pop it up for defense i am TOAST.....

Sorry I stood you up last night. Here is my public apology!

What setup Coolhand was using?

Why did he break you? 78+87 serve+power should have been enough to get to tie break.

Knowing Coolhands game, you probably either went for too much on the first shot after serve (coolhand likes to loop it deep and run for the next shot) or you didn't do enough. That was probably the key for him breaking you?

Actually, I am surprised you did so well with a New setup, new height, new FH BH animation and different serve rating that requires new timing.

I would really like to play you with that.

[Chederer]

coolhand was using his blake.....but, the thing that was not very sim about his blake was he made the backhand 85 and forehand 68---should have been the other way around. here was coolhands stats---i felt like his returns were very good and i think i need to change delpos fh motion to F because D is still good but, being so tall i cant get a big enough rip on the ball----and i also felt very slow---i may have gotten to one or two extra balls, but other than that as soon as i started getting moved around i either had to come up with a big shot or i was toast

fh68 vol50
bh85 pwr77
srv77 spd77
ret76 stm50

[petrelli83]

[quote="djarvik"]They are all SIM alright! They are the next generation SIM, I didn't make a mistake ....did I ever lie to you guys?

You can adjust each to comply with current ITST SIM Rules.

@petrelli83
Simon - move 2 points from BH to Return.
Gonzo - move 2 points from Power to Speed.
As for giving higher serve, no problem here, then just don't call them Simon and Gonzo. You are basically creating a itst-effective-but-still-half-way-realistic-player. Look at players in the game now, Federer - what's his serve rating? ...you think Simon has a better serve then Fed?

I CREATED SIMON,GONZALEZ AND STEPANEK AS U SUGGESTED...i WANT TO CREATE REALISTIC PLAYER
I ONLY NEED MORE TRAINING TO ADAPT MY GAME TO EACH CREATED PLAYER'S STYLE AND FIND THE BEST FOR ME...
HAVE U ANY SUGGESTION FOR LJUBICIC SIM?
TSONGA?PENNETTA?HINGIS?DEMENTIEVA?
IS IT TOO MUCH?

[emate007]

I have done the same. It drives the WT opponents nuts, I get disconnections in over 50% matches.

Since I've given up on being competitive in ITST, this is what I enjoy the most. Beating/embarassing the guys with nonsensical stats using a wtf!? character that should have no business winning.

The weird thing I noticed thou, low power works great against stacked players, but in SIM, 50 power is a real challenge to overcome. This is mostly because of increased stamina in SIM, I think.

Yea, I agree. I only had success against unknowns, I think I was 7-0 with that 50 power guy on WT until Anil beat me 3-1 3-0. ITST players are in a different league altogether.

[djarvik]

coolhand was using his blake.....but, the thing that was not very sim about his blake was he made the backhand 85 and forehand 68---should have been the other way around. here was coolhands stats---i felt like his returns were very good and i think i need to change delpos fh motion to F because D is still good but, being so tall i cant get a big enough rip on the ball----and i also felt very slow---i may have gotten to one or two extra balls, but other than that as soon as i started getting moved around i either had to come up with a big shot or i was toast

fh68 vol50
bh85 pwr77
srv77 spd77
ret76 stm50

eehhhh 50 stamina and 650 volley?? Coolhand, have you seen Blake play at all? BTW - there is a perfectly good Blake already in the game, just replicate his stats or better yet use him! This Blake is not Blake at all. There is just too many things that are wrong with him. I understand now. 76 return + 77 speed + 77 power + 77 Serve. His guy had no weaknesses for you to go after. That is exactly the opposite of realistic. Sorry coolhand.

CHED, I think D is a better motion for sure. Just keep in mind, it takes a bit longer to go thru the swing, you will need to adjust your timing just a drop.