It's shameful the unsportsmanlike Ferrari F1 attitude.

[WILLPETER]

Who knows F1, knows what I'm talking about.

In this team there is no mercenary competitiveness among its pilots, only commercial interest. So it was with Michael Schumacher and remains so, with Fernando Alonso.

Very sad to see that, as done in the past Rubens Barrichello, Felipe Massa is "opening his legs like a whore," and allowing those riders who triumphs seem unable to win without a contract clause which ensures that the preference of the team. But what matters is the money of the sponsors of them, is not it? It is really sad.

I know that for us, Brazilians, will be very hard to see a 'new' Ayrton Senna, who is deservedly considered the best driver of all time. He was not helped by commercial interests or clauses of the contract.
He had character of a true champion. He did not accept being unjustly benefited, as did not accept any team orders, which could affect him. There was no 'victory clause' in his contract... he repudiated this shameful artifice. As I said, he had character of a true champion.
In his carrer, in and out the cockpit, he was simply the best.

It's easy to have some 'record numbers' when there is some kind of manipulation. Is not it, 'Schumi' ?! But anyway, without the manipulation, I think you are a good driver.

But about you, Fernando Alonso, I agree with the great champion of the pass, Nick Lauda, who said yesterday that you don't have honor... you don't have character. You need some 'favors' to win. Your carrer is a big coward lie.

And about you, FERRARI Team, when you cease to be so biased and unfair? When you give us a fair race?

So I'll keep wishing victories to Lewis Hamilton and Mark Webber, because these pilots do not "open the legs" to anyone.
Their victories are deserved.


WILLPETER

[Amazing Matheja]

I remember i cried when Senna crashed...He was my hero at that time (with Prost )
It's a shame to see what Ferrari can do...I read somewhere that Hakkinen won his 1st title with same kind of "tricky" tactics too!So it's not only Ferrari...
It never happened between Prost/Senna/Lauda/Mansell !
It was so sad to see Massa's answers at the press interviews!
And Ferrari will only pay 100000$ for that fault with F1 laws (tactical team orders)!!...What a joke!And nothing when Hamilton brakes the F1 laws (overtaking when safety car was "on")...And nothing when Vettel starts races like a mad man (crossing the "line" more than 2 or 3 times : in F1 races you can only "dodge" 1 time)!!!
Anyway F1 races are getting more boring each year (i think) ,now i only watch the starts and then see a "best of" at the end of day...
So.....i'm with you on that one!

[Moralspain]

I don't understand why some many people love F1, in my opinion it's very boring, you can hardly see an overtaking during a race, it's all about tactic.

And about your statement Willpeter, sorry i can't give my opinion because i didn't see the race, i´m more into motorcycle than into F1.
That being said, and by reading your thoughts about commercial interests..... we can think how unfair it is, sport should be clean, the best sportsman should win and bla bla bla, but truth is that money rules the world, it's a fact, sad of course...but 100% true

[Amazing Matheja]

You're that cynical?man....

...sport should be clean, the best sportsman should win
...

To me that is the meaning of the word "sport".... EDIT : I wanted to say : essence of the word "sport" - but i'm not sure if it's correct in english

[Moralspain]

You're that cynical?man....

...sport should be clean, the best sportsman should win
...

To me that is the meaning of the word "sport".... EDIT : I wanted to say : essence of the word "sport" - but i'm not sure if it's correct in english

what do you mean with being cynical?, first of all i don't consider F1, Nascar, Motorcycling....... sport, it's a business, and btw if you don't have the best car or the bike you can't win, so it´s 75-80% the car or the bike and 25-20 skills.
I don't think Alonso, Hamilton could win a single race driving the last car of the ranking

[emate007]

F1 is certainly harder physically than most non-sports, but I agree it doesn't fit quite into the 'sport' category.
Driving a car in circles is somewhere between bowling and golf.

[Amazing Matheja]

...
a sport, it's a business.

said like that i found it cynical (or cynic,i don't know)
-and i don't say it like an offense!I am cynical too but somehow sports are out of my cynical beliefs... Except i'm aware that nowadays it's too much about business and making money and i regret that!since i believe it should be all about beeing fair,respecting people,enjoying,competiting...

[Moralspain]

Wiki

A sport is commonly defined as an organized, competitive, and skillful physical activity requiring commitment and fair play It is governed by a set of rules or customs. In a sport the key factors are the physical capabilities and skills of the competitor when determining the outcome (winning or losing). The physical activity involves the movement of people, animals and/or a variety of objects such as balls and machines. In contrast, games such as card games and board games, though these could be called mind sports and some are recognized as Olympic sports, require only mental skills. Non-competitive activities such as jogging and rock-climbing, are usually classified as recreations.



It would be great if everyone could drive the same car, in that case we could see who's the best driver, the most skillful one.

[Moralspain]

...
a sport, it's a business.

said like that i found it cynical (or cynic,i don't know)
-and i don't say it like an offense!I am cynical too but somehow sports are out of my cynical beliefs... Except i'm aware that nowadays it's too much about business and making money and i regret that!since i believe it should be all about beeing fair,respecting people,enjoying,competiting...

That´s how "sport" should be.

[djarvik]

Is Drunk Driving a sport?

[Amazing Matheja]

YES! (No...not on a road with people...)

Xavi,I'm aware of it but i don't accept that,to me you seem to be able to accept this more easily than i can...

[Moralspain]

Is Drunk Driving a sport?

are you drunk now?, let me test you, please choose the right option:

[Amazing Matheja]

Haha! Now i know why there are no F1 Dutch drivers!!!

EDIT :

...and btw if you don't have the best car or the bike you can't win, so it´s 75-80% the car or the bike and 25-20 skills.
I don't think Alonso, Hamilton could win a single race driving the last car of the ranking

Oops i haven't seen this...That's a very true point!But i don't agree with your ratio...On motogp you have Stoner on Ducati who can win titles with that bike...And all the other pilots with the same bike are at more than 1 or 2 sec/lap behind!...And Melandri or Hayden are not garbage pilots i found...It's quite hard to say but it must be a bit in favor of the mecha...
You do have races with same cars for all (you can "level up" only certain parts, not expensive and easy for all) it's "F3 series" (i think) Indeed you have very nice races!2 run in a week end (one longer than the other) and for the second run i think they invert the first 8 of the 1st run...Kind of great!

EDIT 2 : And i'm not sure but Alonso almost won a race with...a Minardi! (wich was one of the worst car/team at that time if i'm right)

[WILLPETER]

This is the man



Ayrton Senna - Simply the best.
Miss you.

[coke4]

I don't understand why some many people love F1, in my opinion it's very boring, you can hardly see an overtaking during a race, it's all about tactic.

And about your statement Willpeter, sorry i can't give my opinion because i didn't see the race, i´m more into motorcycle than into F1.
That being said, and by reading your thoughts about commercial interests..... we can think how unfair it is, sport should be clean, the best sportsman should win and bla bla bla, but truth is that money rules the world, it's a fact, sad of course...but 100% true

I agree 100%, motorbike racing is 10 times more entertaining to watch than formula 1