CHAMPIONSLEAGUE SAISON 2009/10

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WHO WILL WIN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

FC BARCELONA
10
29%
BAYERN MÜNCHEN
3
9%
REAL MADRID
6
17%
FC CHELSEA
6
17%
MANCHESTER UNITED
3
9%
AC MILAN
0
No votes
FC LIVERPOOL
3
9%
FC ARSENAL
2
6%
JUVENTUS TURIN
2
6%
 
Total votes : 35

Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:31

i caknow what you mean . its not nice when some defenders only destroy the game.
i agree with you here
also drogba is one of the best forwards on the planet hes a different striker .
he and rooney are the best at moment (just my opinion)but to stop this guys you need this badasses

i also favorite offense fair playing defender with a good technique like phillip lahm .
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Postby Mike Rotchtickles » Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:17

GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:BTW:right bloufo ,abramovich can´t life witout title: .who you see as alternate coach for ancelotti?

First of all I woudn't fire Ancelotti in the first place.
Giving a manager only a season or so to deliver the highest honors, is unrealistic, imo.
Yes of course it can be done but I still think it's too short a time frame to expect the new guy to just walk in during the month of August, make the team gel and play in his particular way, and by May the following year to have delivered major trophies All this in the space of just 9 short months?! :lol:

Anyway, as to your question:
Huddink is the always obvious choice, but the thing with him is that his motivation at this stage of his career appears to be in International management and not club football. Abramovich though has deep pockets, and even though he wasn't able previously to lure Huddink to a longer term at Chelsea, doesn't mean he won't try again. :wink:

Don't laugh, but in my opinion I rate a manager like Martin O' Neill very very highly. If this guy was given a chance at one of the big clubs he could prove to be very successful.
With minor budgets he's delivered at other smaller clubs and is currently doing a great job with Aston Villa.
I like his chances a lot if ever in the future he was given a top job.

Who would you fancy for the Chelsea job, GOA?
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:35

first i totally agree what you wrote ,
there is nearly no way that a new coach come to a team and he directly win all trophies in europe.
that needs time coz its a long process to create a worldclass team.
every coach have a philosophie how to play football ,and when a club is agreeing with that concept from the coach - the club must give him more time than one season to create a team who can win trophies .

but today.......... football is so fast , when the team have not fast success imediately the coach must go
thats a big mistake in my opinion - but so is football today .only success count .
so also after chelsea is out in championsleague ,and when they win no title this year i vote that ancelotti stay forward as coach.

also,all others good worldclasscoaches have contracts -i vote behold ancelotti forward. just give him more time
but i think abramovich think different

who is martin o neill? i don´t know him
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Postby Mike Rotchtickles » Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:46

O' Neill is a former manager at Leicester and Celtic and the current manager of Aston Villa.
He has won trophies with those clubs and is currently in the hunt for that fourth spot in the EPL with Villa.
Yes he maybe doesn't have the credentials yet of other managers who have been successful in Europe, but all this guy needs is the chance at one of the bigger jobs. When he gets that job he will most probably deliver. He is good, very good.
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:58

okay thanks for the info about o´neill .
i didn´t know O´NEILL - so i don´t know anything about his qualitys and his trainerstil ..

yeahr i can see your point, to give other coaches a chance , but its allways dangerous for a top team , to contract an coach , where haven´t trained big clubs . they have no experience how to handle topstars on highestv level .

i think when chelsea fired up ancelotti the new coach is a well known one. like hiddink ,wenger ,or maurinho (he will back to england)
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Postby Mike Rotchtickles » Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:11

Of course you make sense.
The guy is I guess not 'fashionable' enough for the bigger clubs. But to put it this way:
World renowned football names like Ranieri, Mourinho, Scolari, Ancelotti have all ultimately 'failed' in delivering european success for Chelsea. The closest they've come is from a 'lower profile' coach like Avram Grant. Only a few inches from a John Terry spot kick and Grant would have had the CL.
So is a guy like O'Neill that much of a 'backward step', that much of a risk?
Maybe not. :wink:

Wenger? Yeah maybe. But how long does his contract still run at Arsenal? Remember this guy has never walked out or broken a contract in his entire managerial career. He is vey loyal.

Mourinho? I'm more of the opinion that he will more likely land up at a club like Liverpool, rather than Chelsea. Could be still too much bad blood between him and Abramovich.
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:49

its difficult to find a top coach without a contract.

so maybe a guy like o´neill is a alternate for chelsea .
when they decide to give a no name coach a chance ,when they still believe in his concept....... ,than they must have patience and they give him time to work,to build his team
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Postby Amazing Matheja » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:48

At 12,Friday, is the new draw for the quarter...

Lyon
Bordeaux
CSKA Moscow
ManU
Arsenal
Inter Milan
FC Barcelona
Bayern Munchen

EXPLOSIVE!!

I only hope it won't be Lyon/Bordeaux...

And i still think we're gonna have a surprise or two in the semis...
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:32

yeah tomorrow is the draw for QF.
my hope is that we (bayern münchen) not must play about barca !!
thats the top favorit for wining the CL in my opinion !
i saw the match live yesterday .barca played like from another planet.

i hope we must play about manchester united - that is my desire !!


lyon -bordeaux is worst for france- but on the other side with this draw one france team is definitifly in semifinal :!:
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Postby SoundfSilence » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:32

GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:its difficult to find a top coach without a contract.

so maybe a guy like o´neill is a alternate for chelsea .
when they decide to give a no name coach a chance ,when they still believe in his concept....... ,than they must have patience and they give him time to work,to build his team


Speaking from the UK, O'Neil is certainly not 'no name'. He is well respected and highly thought of.

But I agree with you GOA, he has no experience with big clubs / big names, so there is that risk. He is very very good though, if you see how he transformed Leicester City and Aston Villa. Would be exciting for the British public if he got the job that's for sure.
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:09

SoundfSilence wrote:
GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:its difficult to find a top coach without a contract.

so maybe a guy like o´neill is a alternate for chelsea .
when they decide to give a no name coach a chance ,when they still believe in his concept....... ,than they must have patience and they give him time to work,to build his team


Speaking from the UK, O'Neil is certainly not 'no name'. He is well respected and highly thought of.

But I agree with you GOA, he has no experience with big clubs / big names, so there is that risk. He is very very good though, if you see how he transformed Leicester City and Aston Villa. Would be exciting for the British public if he got the job that's for sure.


sorry man ,i meant it not bad.
sure for england hes a well known trainer, i only don´t know him at all. i think its coz he never trained a top 5 team like chelsea ,man u ,arsenal,liverpool, in england
i googled him now to got more information about him.
about his time as player by nottingham ,and his way as trainer
i´m sure hes a good trainer .
but also with google ,i forward can´t say anything about him.
about his philosophie? .
how he work and what system he will let play? .
how he works mentaly? also how he can handle big stars ?
that are all questions for a big club like chelsea .
when chelsea give a trainer like him a chance,it is a big risk,but also it can be a big chance for a new beginning !!
but need chelsea a new beginning ? mean chelsea is a awesome growed team (different than real):

My personell opinion is to hold ancelotti .to give him more time.

but i also know when chelsea not win a title this year he got fired .that are the mechanism of football . since..... a long time (bosman judgement)
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:22

ati4850 wrote:Very weird, with such a fantastic team they have this season they should cruise to the final. Would have been cool for them to play the final in Madrid in may.


even more worst for REAL MADRID will be,when BARCELONA will reach the CL final in MADRID Image Image
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Postby ati4850 » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:33

Barca played pretty well yesterday. :lol:

It's gonna be tough for Ibrahimovic to get back in the starting lineup after this. But they play better without him, so I guess it was the right choice to put him on the bench.
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Postby SoundfSilence » Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:58

GOA MASTER MDMA wrote:sorry man ,i meant it not bad.


Hey man, I didn't mean it bad to you too! :c Just wanted to say that it wouldn't be a surprise to the British if someone like him got the job. You can see what he did with Celtic too :tu (Very unlucky to lose UEFA Cup Final against Jose Morinho's Porto too).
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:44

in 20 minutes start the CL draw.
i can´t wait ....
every draw is fine ,only please give us ( BAYERN MÜNCHEN )not BARCELONA to play in QF !
i extra stay up earlier at 11 cet to watch the draw - normally i sleep till 15 cet :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW: indeed it was a joke that i sleep daily till 15 cet -
in real i sleep normally daily till 17 cet :lol: :lol:
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