Laggy Tournament Matches with Players far away from Europe

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Laggy Tournament Matches with Players far away from Europe

Postby MAD MARTIN » Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:03

Hey Guys,

first of all plz excuse my really bad english!!! :-)

ok,it happened already many times now that i was getting angry after losing matches vs people from other continents like australia, south- and north america and so on because of bad connection and much delay. By the way people who are playing with lag and delay every match are used to it and having a very big advantage because of that!!! honestly playing with lag and delay i m really not be able to play comparable tennis as i usually do with a normal or good connection and i think many players here at itst have same problems!!!???

if i just play matches vs player from out of europe to practice and to increase my performance it wouldnt be that angry if i lose because of delay and lag but now i ll ask you:

what happens if i or somebody else will lose a tourney match just because of this very bad connection??? i m not sure if u were talking about this subject here already but i think its necessary to find a solution for this.

it wouldnt be really fair to lose a match just because of a extremely laggy connection although you are the better player!!! am i right???

so plz can u tell me how the procedere is in that cases???

or is it maybe possible to seperate theese players from other continents in a fair way or is there maybe a tecnical solution we could try to fix the connection???

to all itst players now: plz tell me about your experiences with that subject/problem!!! i really like to know how u think about this!!!

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Postby Phidias81 » Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:21

if i rememeber well, several persons spoke of this, and finally there isn't a solution, tnt will be the same for every countries, itst boss doesn't want to change. And i agree. There aren't so many extra european peolple to do a parallel tnt, and those people must have the opportunity to play, also if they are far.
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Postby DRUNKNMASTER » Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:49

It wouldnt be fair to exclude them of Grand Slams or bigger tournaments.
But some exclusive euro tournaments would be a possibility. then everyone can choose if he want or not.
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Laggy Connection...

Postby julianok » Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:08

Hi there,

I have to agre with you but not always.

No often I have experimenting to lose some matches due to very high ping of players far from me. However it is not a rule. I also played very good games with people very far from me. Like Netherlands, France, Spain and so on. I am in Brazil using a 300kbs ADSL.

In some cases I used to choose playground courts having better connection performances.

I really dont know exactly why but It worked!

So using non official tournaments courts should be a good way of getting better connections. In these cases we have to contact the Tournament moderator or someone that wil or not allow play in playground courts.

By the way: Be cool,

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Postby PahelJDilla » Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:13

The tournaments are played on the practise courts ( 90 % of them).

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Postby Andre » Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:54

I already have lots of problems with lag with people of other continents,and i dont deal very well with bad conections. But it wouldnt be fair to put them out of the tournaments. Although i think they should withdraw if it´s unplayable against them.
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Postby Andre » Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:56

I already had lots of problems with lag with people of other continents,and i dont deal very well with bad conections. But it wouldnt be fair to put them out of the tournaments. Although i think they should withdraw if it´s unplayable against them.
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Postby Q. Reese » Thu, 07 Jul 2005 04:23

Hello all,

It must be noted that if a player ever experience a laggy match with his or her opponent(s), he or she must play out that match and confide with the tournament host about the matter.

Therefore, MAD MARTIN, it is unnecessary for you to lose in these kinds of ITST matches. Just remember to contact the tourney host, and you will be fine!

However, let me do add that I have had many players commend me for having an extremely well connection speed during unofficial and official match play.

These players consist of individuals who resides in South America, all of Europe, Africa (only one player I have played thus far), and Australia. I am from United States of America.

Most importantly, it depends on whose connection is worst than, or better than for that matter, whom. I have an excellent connection with others. For example, I am the news reporter for ITST, and I have had the opportunity to upload my report to certain pertinent individuals on GameSpy that day. They were impressed with my upload speed (just ask around)! Sometimes, even this is not the issue (it could just be any server that is causing the lag). :D

I hope that this has cleared up some misconceptions.

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Postby MAD MARTIN » Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:08

@ Q.Reese

Sorry dude, but are u dreaming???

I cant confirm at all what u have said about speaking with host after losing a match because of bad connection to a player far out of europe!!!

my experiences with that are totally different!!! honestly,if it would work like that i would have much more points and a much better ranking than i actually have!!! if it would have happened only once to me i could live with it but not after it happened a few more times than only once!

thats the reality even u will think bad about me now!!!

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Postby D4rkm4n » Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:56

Hi,

i know most people will not like what i say. But it is my opinion.

For Xbox Players there is an Australian and US only zone tour but it would make no sense to do this kind of stuff here for the PC tour because of there are only a few people living outter Europe who are playing the PC game (zubzy from Australia is the only one with huge ping i had problems). Another thing is the connection from US/Australian people. I played lots of US guys who only had Modem or ISDN. So there is no wonder the connection is bad but most of them have a good connection. For example lets take QResse here. I played few games with him and the connection was excellent(he can confirm this). What i found out that there is a bit more lag with Austalians than Americans. IT also depends on your connection. I don't know why so many people here have problems with the lag. If the lag is 2-3 seks just push the buttons a bit earlier and there is no problem. Only a few people from outter Europe are the problem and exactly those guys are attacked by guys like madmartin or because they loose and just don't know how to handle the lag.

D4rk

PS: I think there is no problem people who are not from Europe can play here.
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Postby MAD MARTIN » Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:46

@ d4rkman

hey d4rk!!!

it was never my intention to attack anybody far away from europe!!!
so dont say such things plz!!! for example squilari who is a good friend of mine i would never think to attack him u understand??? squilari is a very good example. as we all know he is a very good player and i was playing vs him a lot of times!!! if we have laggy connection he beats me 6 0 6 0 and when we had good connection i also beat him same often as he beat me! i think this is describing the problem more as good!

zubzy for example is also a good friend of mine so again i never tried to attack anybody here!!! ok?

THE REASON WHY I POSTED THIS THREAD WAS TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR AN EXISTING PROBLEM!!! NOT TO READ SUCH ANSWERS!!!

EVERYBODY INCLUDING ME KNOWS THAT PEOPLE FROM OUT OF EUROPE ARE NOT GUILTY FOR THAT CIRCUMSTANCES!!!

its a tecnical problem i wanted to talk about to find a solution! thats all!


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Postby Rocketsfall » Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:02

It is indeed a technical problem but it includes a huge personal dimension. In the end, this is about wheter or not excluding particular players.
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Postby Q. Reese » Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:25

Dear MAD MARTIN,

You have stated, "thats the reality even u will think bad about me now!!!"

I just want you to know that you have totally decided my fellings towards you. For the record, I do not have any harsh feelings.

I am not that way. My post was made to reconcile some things that was stated here, AND MY SOLUTION WAS TO HAVE ALL PLAYERS WITH LAG CHECK THEIR CONNECTION SPEEDS.

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Postby Phidias81 » Fri, 08 Jul 2005 08:58

not everyone can have a fast connection, for technical problems or money problems
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Postby Q. Reese » Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:06

Hello,

Yes. Of course, I do realize that. That is why this site is just for fun! :D
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