Wimbledon (Doubles)

[Dakra]

[costiiforzaa]

Juani(Raonic/Llodra) def. G.Dimitrov (BUL)/Llodra 6/0 6/2 6/7(5) 6/3

There were some nice rallies. It was a great battle in the third set. I saved a match point. In the winning game of the match his partner had to make 3 winners. A lot of UE from the two Llodras. And from me of course and why? - 300 ping average, great sensitive! It was really hard to get into the match! I started to get into the match in the start of the third set! And I want now to ask the staff, is it normal to have this "south american guys with bad network" an advantage before the start of the match? First they are too used to this conditions and second in the first games/sets it is very hard for the non-SA guys to get into the match. And for me this is not normal! And I want to ask another thing, why the draw for Wimbledon wasn't release after the end of the Roland Garros draw? Then if the Roland Garros was already done, there will be some seed players and this would be more fair! I am really annoyed!

[Indiantonike]

And I want now to ask the staff, is it normal to have this "south american guys with bad network" an advantage before the start of the match? First they are too used to this conditions and second in the first games/sets it is very hard for the non-SA guys to get into the match. And for me this is not normal!!

There is no connection with TE server while you're playing, only from computer to computer. So even with good connections, ping may be high since you're far from your opponent.

But I agree on the second part. South american players are used to play with high ping. So you train with 100-150ms ping max, and during match you have a ping really higher, it really killed your training. On their side, playing with a 300ms ping average is what they do all the time, so they don't need to get into the match. But what do you want to do ? Just opening a South american tour ?

And I want to ask another thing, why the draw for Wimbledon wasn't release after the end of the Roland Garros draw? Then if the Roland Garros was already done, there will be some seed players and this would be more fair! I am really annoyed

I thing this is my fault. I have to play the final with Inseedious, but I was really busy the last days. I came on the chat but I was most of the time away, and when I wasn't it was really late and he went offline

[C4iLL]

Shame on you Indiantonike, the troublemaker ! You rig the double tour !!!

[inseedious]

Of course my luck never leaves me! First round vs (obviously) the most in form player of the draw. Probably this would not have happened if the RG F was played before.

pidzi vs inseedious 7-5 0-6 6-4 3-6 6-4

Fortunately it's a doubles match, because if a match like this cost me a wimbledon defeat i would have been so hungry. I scored more points than him, as the score suggests. The difference was made by 2 factors:
-the netcord was a constant during his volleys, he hit at least 25 (maybe 30+) nets during the whole match. I just want to believe they were not intentional, but looking at the stats it's a glitch that can be exploited;
-it was like a 3vs1 match, as my haas was a total retarded and gifted lots of points, with lobs on break points (easily turned in a winner) or often giving an open court for easy down the line passing shots. The real challenge of the match was keeping haas's services: for example, I was leading *3-2 in the last set but haas lost the following 2 serves, gifting the match. In the last game, haas made a double fault on 15-30 and a middle court lob at 15-40 (and other stupid things during the game).

To sum up: There still are lots of glitches in AI and overall doubles gameplay. I'm the RG champion so I'll have a great rank in the next months, so it's not my interest saying that doubles matches can be just fun but glitched. These 5 sets were a great testing chance for me, and I can surely say that, till the 4v4 will be introduced, doubles will be just a funny thing, not a serious tour.

I'll sum up doubles glitches:
1)AI can be retarded, especially with lobs (it seems that in every set there's and AI who plays greatly and a AI who plays badly, but as the sets are odd, there clearly is a player who has an advantage);
2)There seems to be a way to intentionally hit the netcord (or at least dramatically increase the chances to hit it) making volleys without a good positioning;
3)When the ball is wide, the AI partner at net will leave the down the line open for easy passes;
4)Kick serves make the AI opponent return a slow ball, easily attackable,
5)Because of the random jumps at net, it's difficult to hit an efficient risky volley (in real doubles match it is way easier than in single one because you are already at net waiting for the ball), and being able to hit a volley doesn't really give you great chances to aim at the open court and score a winner, as the net opponent will almost easily catch your offensive volley.

[C4iLL]

I hope everyone takes the double for fun because indeed, it's very random currently
At the end, the fact someone is champion of this or this tournament has not a big signification I think (sorry Inseedious ^^)
However, it's funky to play them to change a bit

[inseedious]

I hope everyone takes the double for fun because indeed, it's very random currently
At the end, the fact someone is champion of this or this tournament has not a big signification I think (sorry Inseedious ^^)
However, it's funky to play them to change a bit

When I said I'm the RG champion, I just meant that what I wrote in the whole post is against my interest, because I have the chance to be at least in top 5 in TE Doubles Tour, but I'm saying that this tour can't be picked seriously and it's barely worth to even just play the 4 Slams. If I had said "Yeah! TE doubles is a really serious tour! You should add at least 1000 and 500 events", then I would have spoken taking care of my interest.

[Dakra]

The lower part of the draw is some slow and highter is done. Come on.

[C4iLL]

Well I asked 2 times my opponent, he didn't answer :/

[costiiforzaa]

Well and didine17 gave markota16 yesterday a WO for a future, so maybe and he is not available this days. So maybe and Robbin must get WO. But djarvik has the last word. The bad thing is that the deadline was before 10 days and it's only for R1. And I am sure that if djarvik give WOs for C4iLL and Robbin, the tournament will end in 2-3 days.

[djarvik]

I will update shortly.

[C4iLL]

Pigro (Fed-Raonic) vs C4iLL (Fed-Wawrinka) = 7-5, 6-4, 3-6, 7-5

Very funky match but very exhausting ! Globally Pigro was more solid than I and more regular. He did a fantastic come back in fourth set, congratulations for the mental

First set I led 5-3 and I lost 7-5.
Second set, he had a break and I wasn't able to come back.
Third set, nothing special.

Fourth set was the first time I lost in my career after having such a lead : I led 4-0, 0-30 on his service, my volleys were perfect without fault. And suddenly I began to make a lot of faults, the match turned. He came back 4-4 and led 5-4.
I managed to score a game but I was mentally exhausted, all my returns sux, I was really bad. He logically won despite two match points saved 7-5.

The AI was far more interesting than during our previous test by the way ; I didn't loose because of Wawrinka for intsnace

[pigrosofo]

thanks C4ill I tried to make the best I could to break your Fed with my Fed and Big Jim Raonic and several times I managed to do so, even if on 3rd set you was really solid also on your service game; great come back in the fourth, I tried the energies when I managed to keep that game recovering from 0-30, later as you said you had finished your mental energies
now I'm into SF with Dakra, we will se if my dream will can continue it would be however a Grand Slam final

[costiiforzaa]

Please pigrosofo and Dakra play your match as soon as possible, because this Tuesday night will be maybe my last day when I will be available to play before 15th of August. So take care.

[VMoe86]

Please pigrosofo and Dakra play your match as soon as possible, because this Tuesday night will be maybe my last day when I will be available to play before 15th of August. So take care.

They scheduled for July 24th after 11 PM CET, they both were online at that time on chat (pigrosofo as raffozza) and neither of them played another match on that day/night -- they haven't tried scheduling since then.