Federer vs Djokovic

[Moralspain]

The head to head between Nadal and Federer speaks for itself

IMO, the only thing that h2h speaks of is that the majority of their matches have been played on clay, a surface on which Nadal is considered by many to be the greatest of all time. The head to head doesn't say much else. I mean where was Rafa when Fed was winning the US Open five straight times? Not once was he good enough to play him here. Always going out to 'lesser' oppostion.
So I mean looking at their lopsided head to head where it's mostly based on clay, doesn't prove anything. All it says to me is that Federer was good enough to reach major clay-court finals where he ended up playing Nadal. If he wasn't good enough then he would have lost in earlier rounds so he wouldn't have had to face up to Rafa, and so his head to head with Nadal would not have been harmed.

If you could ask Fed who wants in the final, Nadal or Del Potro?, what do you think would be his answer?.
Nadal could beat him on grass (something that looked impossible), and beat him in Australia too (something that also looked impossible).
But as i said, the problem is not Federer, Del Po is a worse opponent than Federer for Rafa, in my opinion.

[Coolhand Texas]

The head to head between Nadal and Federer speaks for itself

IMO, the only thing that h2h speaks of is that the majority of their matches have been played on clay, a surface on which Nadal is considered by many to be the greatest of all time. The head to head doesn't say much else. I mean where was Rafa when Fed was winning the US Open five straight times? Not once was he good enough to play him here. Always going out to 'lesser' oppostion.
So I mean looking at their lopsided head to head where it's mostly based on clay, doesn't prove anything. All it says to me is that Federer was good enough to reach major clay-court finals where he ended up playing Nadal. If he wasn't good enough then he would have lost in earlier rounds so he wouldn't have had to face up to Rafa, and so his head to head with Nadal would not have been harmed.

Agree with bloufo here. Im sick of hearing of the head to head, when most of the matches are on clay.

[Moralspain]

The head to head between Nadal and Federer speaks for itself

IMO, the only thing that h2h speaks of is that the majority of their matches have been played on clay, a surface on which Nadal is considered by many to be the greatest of all time. The head to head doesn't say much else. I mean where was Rafa when Fed was winning the US Open five straight times? Not once was he good enough to play him here. Always going out to 'lesser' oppostion.
So I mean looking at their lopsided head to head where it's mostly based on clay, doesn't prove anything. All it says to me is that Federer was good enough to reach major clay-court finals where he ended up playing Nadal. If he wasn't good enough then he would have lost in earlier rounds so he wouldn't have had to face up to Rafa, and so his head to head with Nadal would not have been harmed.

Agree with bloufo here. Im sick of hearing of the head to head, when most of the matches are on clay.

on clay doesn´t count or what?

[Mike Rotchtickles]

But as i said, the problem is not Federer, Del Po is a worse opponent than Federer for Rafa, in my opinion.

Look mate I don't disagree completely. You do make sense with the above.
I mean Nadal is and always will be a bad match-up for Fed because it's a strength v weakness match-up, in that it's a case of Nadal's forehand to Fed's single handed backhand. But this is not as effective on other surfaces as it is on a slow high bouncing clay surface. On a fast hard-court like the US Open, this advantage that Nadal has is negated to an extent and the faster courts definately favour Federer.
So I take your point that Del Potro doesn't have those kind of problems. A two handed bh and 6.6 height, pretty much is a big aid when handling those spins from Rafa.

[Coolhand Texas]

Of course clay counts, rafa is the best on clay. What im trying to say, is that the head to head is skewed as federer is able to make it deeper on clay tournaments, where he will face nadal. Where as nadal doesnt make is consistnently deep on hard courts where he can play federer. Like at the open

[Mike Rotchtickles]

Of course clay counts, rafa is the best on clay. What im trying to say, is that the head to head is skewed as federer is able to make it deeper on clay tournaments, where he will face nadal. Where as nadal doesnt make is consistnently deep on hard courts where he can play federer. Like at the open

Exactly.

[MisterGregory42]

Fed will win and will go on to win yet another Slam. I just don't see any other possible outcome. I'd love to be wrong, though.

[fedfan]

Even if Novak somehow beats Federer, his form all year has suggested he will simply back it up with a poor performance the next day. Also I am more confident of Federer being able to play two five setters in two days than Novak, and nobody wants a retirment in a GS final.

Nadal apparently made the organisers change the schedule to fit his match in first, I think his evil plan is to play a 5 set epic and push Federer back into the small hours.

Also I'm sick of all the talk about Nadal Federer H2H, the fact is they nearly always have great matches that go to the wire and it would be great to see them face off again.

[Moralspain]

Of course clay counts, rafa is the best on clay. What im trying to say, is that the head to head is skewed as federer is able to make it deeper on clay tournaments, where he will face nadal. Where as nadal doesnt make is consistnently deep on hard courts where he can play federer. Like at the open

Ok, i agree, and sorry if i was a bit rude before, i didn´t mean to

[Rob ITST]

Fed will win and will go on to win yet another Slam. I just don't see any other possible outcome.

Yep. There are a few records to break if Fed wins. And that's what Fed does, he breaks records.

[giladw]

federer will win and will win the us open

[DARKSTYLE86]

A Fed-Delpo final is gonna suck!!

[fedfan]

A Fed-Delpo final is gonna suck!!

Worse than a Djokovic - Delpo final? Federer is always worth watching regardless of who he is playing.

[NARCOSIS2009]

I'd rather have either Fed Vs Rafa Final, or Djoko vs Rafa Final.... Del po... good player but boring!

[Bowler2151]

you can look at Nadal and Federer head to head and see that when they play each other Nadal is just good as Federer on all the surfaces. Hard courts Nadal v. Federer 3-3. Grass Courts Nadal v. Federer 1-2.