How many times until it's cheesy?

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Re: How many times until it's cheesy?

Postby Uchiha Muss » Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:16

eliomelma wrote:After all, now short slices are allowed or banned? One more time again in training matches i can see how this shot give an advantage, 6 short slices and 6 points. Now i have can use it and i make against my opponent 7 short slices and won 7 points, he was good opponent with 1700 ELO. This shot could ne deleted from strikes at least in itst tour


Dude short slice or any other thing? nothing is banned. People will get banned for using it too much. Freedom is yours, none shall interfere. Take what you want and don't look back. It's a challenge for people, after all this game is boring without variety.

P.S. If you're gonna cheat, look for something in your opponent so if they whine to you, then you can counter-complain and shut them up.
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Re: How many times until it's cheesy?

Postby eliomelma » Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:28

Uchiha Muss wrote:
eliomelma wrote:After all, now short slices are allowed or banned? One more time again in training matches i can see how this shot give an advantage, 6 short slices and 6 points. Now i have can use it and i make against my opponent 7 short slices and won 7 points, he was good opponent with 1700 ELO. This shot could ne deleted from strikes at least in itst tour


Dude short slice or any other thing? nothing is banned. People will get banned for using it too much. Freedom is yours, none shall interfere. Take what you want and don't look back. It's a challenge for people, after all this game is boring without variety.

P.S. If you're gonna cheat, look for something in your opponent so if they whine to you, then you can counter-complain and shut them up.

Nothing is banned? From match rules: "Cheesing & wrong behaviour are prohibited
Serving from the extreme wide corner of the court.
Lobbing when both players are at the baseline
If the server is using a b2 serve AND is serve and volleying, you can use a lob on return.
All other situations for lob returns are not allowed.
Lob + Net rushing tactics
Drop spamming (to be defined though..) / drop shots returns.
No drop shot when the opponent is at the net and you are not -- only exception is when the opponent does a Drop + Net Rushing combination.
Continually use provocating gestures eg. victory ones especially
after the opponent misses.
Running towards the net at the end of each point like a fool (yes i know this sounds weird but i've seen this many times playing TE online and it's utterly annoying believe me )
Offending / unnapropriate words in the chat. Also don't use the chat if not necessary during a match, respect your opponent concentration. The chat can only be used if you need to ask for short break or to propose a re-host if the playing conditions are bad, not for complaning, venting or any other meaningless purposes.
Do not spam predefined chat quotes during a match.
Do not pause the game repeatedly entering the menu or swappping to another application."

So short slices aren't in list but after last post maybe All players told that is a shot to delete. Then if you see the best players matches ( moe florian, richie, butcher) i don't see any of them that use this shot, they know how effective is and they know how use it but for Fair play and good play in tour they Not use it
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Re: How many times until it's cheesy?

Postby Uchiha Muss » Thu, 13 Jun 2013 00:18

eliomelma wrote:
So short slices aren't in list but after last post maybe All players told that is a shot to delete. Then if you see the best players matches ( moe florian, richie, butcher) i don't see any of them that use this shot, they know how effective is and they know how use it but for Fair play and good play in tour they Not use it


Dude, don't be captain obvious. We're not talking about outright cheesy game. Our business is advanced cheating in a continuous set. Don't compare this kind of cheats to those lob and spam dropshot trash. Also top players you mentioned are winning without them. You do realize that it might be boring for them to win all the time or most of the time. I don't know what the hell they think but I'd get bored if there was no challenge for me.

They don't use it. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy it. I repeat things aren't banned. people are. Again this doesn't include simple cheesy play
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Re: How many times until it's cheesy?

Postby Florian » Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52

The problem is that short slices are currently too easy to produce. In real tennis players with big drop shot skills can produce those, and only when they are at least playing them from the baseline or closer.
2nd problem is that there is visually basically no difference between slices and short slices, which is extremely annoying especially on 2D courts. So my opinion is that until manutoo fixes that issue, short slices used several times should be forbidden. Actually the only time they should be authorized would be when facing an opponent playing from the bashes.
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Re: How many times until it's cheesy?

Postby Uchiha Muss » Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:51

Florian wrote:The problem is that short slices are currently too easy to produce. In real tennis players with big drop shot skills can produce those, and only when they are at least playing them from the baseline or closer.
2nd problem is that there is visually basically no difference between slices and short slices, which is extremely annoying especially on 2D courts. So my opinion is that until manutoo fixes that issue, short slices used several times should be forbidden. Actually the only time they should be authorized would be when facing an opponent playing from the bashes.


It's not that easy with players like isner nalbandian. Most of the time it's not short and gives a big time advantage to opponent. You're not thinking about fails. It's not like every cheat works every time and gives definite winner. You're taking short slices for granted.

I play on 3D and with proper customization every height and ball shadow it's easy to know where the ball will be. The problem for me is I can't really run fast at 45 degree angle. My player slows down a lot.

I don't think Manutoo is fixing that. Not everything should be removed. Especially when everyone likes to stay deep at the baseline and I need something to lure them back in.

P.S. Playing from the bashes? what's that supposed to mean
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Re: How many times until it's cheesy?

Postby Florian » Thu, 13 Jun 2013 12:55

From the bashes I meant from the place where line judges sit.
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Re: How many times until it's cheesy?

Postby pigrosofo » Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:53

Florian wrote:From the bashes I meant from the place where line judges sit.

Nadal knows what you mean :mrgreen:
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Re: How many times until it's cheesy?

Postby Algo4 » Sat, 06 Jul 2013 23:19

Uchiha Muss wrote:
eliomelma wrote:After all, now short slices are allowed or banned? One more time again in training matches i can see how this shot give an advantage, 6 short slices and 6 points. Now i have can use it and i make against my opponent 7 short slices and won 7 points, he was good opponent with 1700 ELO. This shot could ne deleted from strikes at least in itst tour


Dude short slice or any other thing? nothing is banned. People will get banned for using it too much. Freedom is yours, none shall interfere. Take what you want and don't look back. It's a challenge for people, after all this game is boring without variety.

P.S. If you're gonna cheat, look for something in your opponent so if they whine to you, then you can counter-complain and shut them up.

Go play something else rather than tennis if you think everything has to be allowed and is your risk to take to do it.


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Re: How many times until it's cheesy?

Postby Uchiha Muss » Sun, 07 Jul 2013 00:33

Algo4 wrote:Go play something else rather than tennis if you think everything has to be allowed and is your risk to take to do it.
See you next week and December through March if everything goes well :c


Dude come on, are you scared of little cheat? I mean it's just a short slice and we're not even talking about nuking this game :lol:. So far nobody has complained that I used them too much, so that means I'm keeping myself contained.
Again, nothing is banned because if you use it smartly then it's part of your game. Slices are really important in real life, so is short slice in this game.

P.S. I'm gonna stick around for longer than december.
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