Shlob

[Fez]

Most broken strike in TE?

Lob is Sh#@. I am standing just inside my baseline, good position, ball on strings, aggressive lob....opponent is at net, and guess what happens? Opponent has to only take two steps back to smash my lob, standing only two meters from the net! So pathetic. Why hasn't this been addressed?

When I have time to execute a good lob, my opponent should have to run back to his baseline to retrieve it...either with a smash, if he was fast enough, or waiting for it to bounce. This real life tennis situation never happens in TE. The lob is always sh@#. Seems like an easy fix, tweak-wise. As it is now, the only way a lob works is if opponent falters. There are no "winning" lobs.

Its funny, over and over for years now, I attempt this lob that should work....the lob that is the right tennis shot for the situation....stubbornly hoping for once it might work. NEVER does. Cmon, seems like it would only take a "minutoo" or two to fix yes?

[Robbin92]

Lob is certainly not broken. You should learn at what time to use the defensive or the aggressive lob.
A well execution lob, one that surprises the opponent (!), will result in a lob winner.

Also keep in mind, when your opponent is at the net your first goal should not be to hit the ball pass them, the first goal should be to only enable them to hit "weak" volleys and build your passing game from there.

[djarvik]

Sound like work man, I just want to press a button and get a lob winner. Can I map a "lob winner" button?

[Fez]

As usual, my point isnt addressed. If i hit a good lob, it should require more than 2 steps back for my opponent. We clear now?

O, and can i map a "disable djarvik" button? Oops! Already disabled.

[Richie1308]

If you hit a good lob and your opponent wasn't expecting it it will be a winner for sure. If not then it will never work, that's why trying to make the passing should always be the priority, lob is here to surprise and not letting the opponent getting too close to the net to finish you. Like in reality.
In my opinion the lob in TE is well made for once in a tennis video game (exception the fact it accelerates after the rebound so it's impossible to get it if you don't smash it), while in Top Spin I always thought it was a weird shot.

[Fez]

Let me try to say it another way..... In real tennis, sometimes you have to run down a lob. In TE, lobs are either what you guys are calling surprise lobs which work ONLY if its a surprise.....or the lob is smashed. There is no running down well placed lobs. Get it?

[Richie1308]

Still, if I have quite a time to hit a lob I've never seen it not turning in a winner. Now to say I always rely on my passings a lot so my opponent hardly expect a lob so that's also a reason my lobs are almost always ending in a winner. But I know some people spam lob almost all the time and at the end I end up punishing them always with my smash.

I guess you can't hit a good lob in any situation and even a good lob may be got by the opponent if he expected it. Now to me it's a good thing because passing is the usual answer in this situation and in reality we hardly even see more than 1 lob winner in a set (I don't even think Djokovic made a single lob winner against Federer in Wimbledon). It's not a shot often tried, and the difficulty to make it work is probably the reason, in general the players can make the smash. So to me it's a good thing the shot is what it is in TE, made another way it would be troublesome. Don't forget the netplay is quite special in TE and the distance right and left to get your volleys are shorter than in reality so having to go backward to hit your smash is also shorter. In reality it's not the shot itself which is to question but more the impact the size of the court in TE has to the netplay.

[Fez]

Richie, you make a good point about court size and net play. But I think that if the SPEED of the lob was increased just s little bit, we would have more "running down lobs".

[Sabratha]

I'm not a good player but lobs that are used against me usually work, and like the other people have said in this thread, it's because they caught me by surprise or drew me towards the net with a dropshot and then used a lob when I was too far away to do anything. A slice lob is probably the best option because it drifts up high and it's super hard to smash unless you are an experienced player (unlike me).

[Richie1308]

I'm a bit cautious about making faster lob, I actually prefer having a not so effective lob than the contrary because it can really be a supra effective shot with just improving it a bit (how many tennis games i've seen with terrible destructive lobs that were a nightmare when at the net).

Now still, having a bit faster lob when hit but a shot that gets really slower after having hit the ground like it should do I would be okay for that. Because the main problem right now is you can't get a lob if not without a rebound, we should be able to get one after a rebound. In this case having a bit faster lob would be okay. The best also would be that if you hit a late lob it would go very high but not very fast and your opponent could adjust himself and even hit after a rebound, and if you have time hit a good lob.

[J. Grilo]

I agree with Richie. In my opinion, lobs are pretty effective. It's already really hard for me getting lobs, many times they are to fast to me, when they come surprisingly.

[Fez]

One day, i will post a .dmo to show you more specifically what i am talking about. Thanks for replies though.