movement online matches

[FEDERER2]

U already know them because we gave u advise, just analyze the advise given and play play play.

[Rusty96]

Well, the only thing was the moving down, then left/right but this doesn't help for me. The geometric thing of c4ill was something I already knew. I know where I need to stand as best position to cover the court for geometrical aspects. But I am not quick enough to get to the ball from there.

I have just lost my match at Coupe Rogers to kenos. I felt like I played really well. Ping was below 100ms so my aiming worked really well. I felt like I played better angles and often closer to the lines than my opponent. I really mixed it up so it's not like you could easily guess but he was there at any shot. He moved like he had 0 reaction time, like there was something that signalised him early where to move.

[Rusty96]

Well, as I was told today many of you guys who are telling me that I am maybe not talented or have to "learn TE mechanics" are simply lying. In fact the top players here found out how to tweak the .ini without getting wrong CRC in order to increase the speed of your players. I think it is quite a joke that you dominate the tour by cheating. Is it nice to win like this? What you are doing here is quite ridicolous to be honest.

Well obviously robbin was trolling me but i checked the time richie's player needs to run the same distance as my player. And he needs less time and my character is very fast so there defenitely is something. And please don't tell me need to learn the game....I maybe don't know the game as well as you do but i know my analog stick good enough that i don't have to learn it.

[JasonBourne]

Rusty, youre making a fool out of yourself..
Have you ever watched the top players in devmode ? There you can monitor their speed. If not go and watch it and test yourself. You claim they cheat for running faster, bring proof otherwise stop disrespecting other players.

[Vramvrim]

Damn, our secret has been revealed Let's confess everything, we all put our chars at 100 speed in the .ini files. (Except Pidzi, he put 150, damn guy didn't respect our secret International Treaty Of Cheating)

Now I can explain how I can beat my good friend Richie more often than others players on tour : I put a keylogger on his PC one day, so I can access all his files. Before we play, I restore the original .ini files on his PC, so he's back to his legit 400~500 ELO level But since I'm not very good either, even if I cheat, our matches are still close and sometimes he even beats me.

[Elias]

[16:24:49] <Robbin> I think the opponent changes his speed in the .ini.
[16:24:52] <Robbin> You did not do that yet=
[16:24:56] <Robbin> ?

So, Rusty, you took what Robbin said as face value
He was making fun of you, just in case you didn't noticed.

By the way, it's painful enough to read your broken record since weeks/months already. Several people tried to help / explain the best they could but you're still singing the same song all over again. Maybe you simply don't have the patience or you're not made for this game, no one can tell. No one can guarantee you will progress more (or to what level cap exactly) and how long this will take (still you won a future recently so i guess it can be seen as a progress, even if a slight one).

Now if you're going to spread cheating accusations out of your frustration and without evidence, let me tell you : you'll end banned in less than no time. You're warned, no joke at all about it.

Getting some steam off is ok as long as you continue to do so in a gentleman way. If you can't cope with that and choose a way wich would be toxic for the community, you can count on us to protect the community atmosphere and silence you.

[pidzi]

Damn, our secret has been revealed Let's confess everything, we all put our chars at 100 speed in the .ini files. (Except Pidzi, he put 150, damn guy didn't respect our secret International Treaty Of Cheating)

Haha, this made my day man.

[Rusty96]

Ok as you asked for evidence I made a test. I already said that I watched Richie vs. pidzi. Richie needed about 1,8 seconds to run from the sideline to the centre line of the court,change direction,and run back to the sideline.

Now here comes my test: I copied the situation. I run from sideline to centre line and back to the sideline. I new before that i change direction at the centre line so there was 0 reaction time. And i needed 2,3 seconds, so 0,5 seconds longer than richie allthough Richie set his time in the match so he had to react what his opponent does so probably if you consider Richie needed reaction time as well the difference is even bigger. I think this is a clear evidence that my player is slower. Remember , my character is Hewitt who is pretty fast.

So my question is how comes this huge time difference?

I am sorry that I said you are cheating but I thought Robbin would tell the truth.

[Elias]

Your words are not a measurement evidence at all. Videos, timestamps, same character, same surface, same exact spots, same exact absolute movement (wich you won't probably be able to replicate exactly and wich is probably the reason Richie counters inertia better..).

You know Rusty, progression is long with TE (and frustrating), it's already being said. But with any video game the system setup can have an influence as well. So if you absolutely want to exclude your own movement skills/handling as the main issue, you can still look into this direction, framerate, controller, gamepad smaller dead zone, lcd input lag, whatever else may impair your gameplay if any.

[inseedious]

Ok as you asked for evidence I made a test. I already said that I watched Richie vs. pidzi. Richie needed about 1,8 seconds to run from the sideline to the centre line of the court,change direction,and run back to the sideline.

Now here comes my test: I copied the situation. I run from sideline to centre line and back to the sideline. I new before that i change direction at the centre line so there was 0 reaction time. And i needed 2,3 seconds, so 0,5 seconds longer than richie allthough Richie set his time in the match so he had to react what his opponent does so probably if you consider Richie needed reaction time as well the difference is even bigger. I think this is a clear evidence that my player is slower. Remember , my character is Hewitt who is pretty fast.

So my question is how comes this huge time difference?

I am sorry that I said you are cheating but I thought Robbin would tell the truth.

This is a big evidence.
The evidence that Richie is better than you at moving.
Seriously, you should provide better evidence to prove a so strong assumption. You can't just mimic Richie's movements and say that he was faster than you without a good reason because:
1) moving from sideline to center is a very brief movement, so starting a bit earlier to move back from middle to sideline may lead to a relatively big difference in time;
2) you probably did the "test" with two different guys. Height, weight, speed, tonicity, current stamina are just some of the variables involved;
3) you cannot just pick a run from a .dmo file and mimic it. There's skill involved even in a simple right-left movement.
We are even trying to believe that there's a problem different than just lack of skill. As C4ill suggested, sometimes it even depends on the computer itself, since some have higher input lag. But you're really pushing our limit. And we are a very patient community after all.

P.S. We notice even the smallest tweaks on the speed. Some characters were literally turned from underpowered to overpowered because of 1-2% speed gain. So why should you be the only one noticing a "cheat" from top guys? Are you seriously saying that you expect to reach the level most guys are reaching in their 3rd/4th year of playing in just few months? Please.

[Rusty96]

inseedious: My test was in non-match conditions, so i have just copied the way Richie was running at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHBsLOi387k at 5,23min. I started a little inside the side line, run to the centre line and finish a little outside the side line,like richie did.I looked that i am hitting the same turn spots as richie did in his match. So there is no reaction time which makes me slow. I know made the test with Nadal (so same character) in Madrid (so same surface). It was 2,2 with Nadal now: 2015-08-13.20-07---R.NAD-vs-N.DJO.dmo

Remember: Richie needed 1,8 allthough he had to react, me 2,2 without reaction time.

I just don't understand this difference in running speed.

[FEDERER2]

The fact is that u r not fast and u wont accept the fact that it takes SOME time to progress in this game, and accusing RICHIE (of all people) of cheating is the lowest of the low. With statements like that, u shudnt bother asking top players for help.

[Rusty96]

The fact is that u r not fast and u wont accept the fact that it takes SOME time to progress in this game, and accusing RICHIE (of all people) of cheating is the lowest of the low. With statements like that, u shudnt bother asking top players for help.

Well Robbin told me that this was the case...maybe you should blame him for this as well, not only me. I am sorry for my accusations that some people would cheat.

You are absolutely right that I am not fast.The thing is you always says quickness comes with time which is very unlogic because with the time you learn to anticipate better,to react better but the speed with which the player is really moving won't change because even with practice it is not possible to hold a stick to more than 100% to a side.
You guys always told me to bring evidence that I am slower and I copied the run Richie was doing out of exactly the same spots,with exactly the same player on exactly the same surface and posted my results which clearly state a difference in time needed for the same distance prooven by videos.

Before you tell me that I simply reacted to slow or something like this. There is no reaction time in this test because I knew before which way I would run,... The time is started exactly when the player starts moving and if there is a reaction time
which influence the results it is at Richie's run because the video of his movement was actually in a match,so he didn't knw that he would change direction at some point.

So the question is how can this time difference be solved or explained?

[djarvik]

Yes. One word explanation - inertia.

You press left, get to the point, then press right. Richie presses left, releases before getting to the point and lets the inertia carry him to the point, then presses right.

This is the last time I am trying to help. I am ready to troll you out of here. Not because you accuse people of cheating, that was a well done troll by Robbin, but because you refuse to accept the reality and I get a vibe that you think you should be a great player, and if you not - others might be cheating. Robbins troll finally gave you an opening to reveal your true nature - "if I am losing, then they must cheat, as I am destined to be great". Your inability to accept that you might just never be good...

[Rusty96]

No, I don't think when others play better they cheat. I only wonder that their running speed seems to be significantly faster. My real nature is more like "Why am I so weak? I tried everything,what am I doing wrong?" especially as I really enjoy making shots but I get crazy when I see that I seem to fight with weak weapons as my big problem is that I seemingly lack of speed. I also tried inertia but it doesn't help. My player doesn't get faster in changing direction and additionally becomes significantly slower when running from one side to the other side of the court when using inertia on the way because the time my player needs to accelerate from a bit more than 0pace again seems to be way higher. And with that time I don't mean the time i need to react, I mean the time he acctually needs after I started the move.

Maybe there is something additional to inertia?