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Postby L Sanchez MD » Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:04

VillaJ100 wrote:
L Sanchez MD wrote:Watch Niculescu right now if you want. She's slicing at least 30% of her forehands (with one hand, not like Santoro with two).

It's not pointless :D Just unusual. She's up a break in the 3rd against Cornet... must be doing something right!


Haha, pffft what are these coaches teaching these days. Although it is sometimes fun to watch a junkballer, just because you never know whats coming next. Dog is probably the closest to that around today. If you wanna be at the very top of the game though its pretty poor as a strategy goes, Santoro was just a freak. Brad Gilbert has a good book about just dogging it in a match, called 'winning ugly', worth a read.

Thinking about it it does show how far tennis has come on. 20 Years ago you could have done well with just a slice backhand.


I actually prefer the variety to players who just hit hard topspin shots off both wings.
And yeah, I have the Gilbert book.

That said, I don't like out-and-out junkballers with nothing else, or pushers, but I like the variety.
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Postby KluddKalle » Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:14

VillaJ100 wrote:Brad Gilbert has a good book about just dogging it in a match, called 'winning ugly', worth a read.


I've never read it, only read about the book. "Winning ugly" - wasn't he talking about his enitre career and the fact that he didn't have much talent except for running or something like that?? :D
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Postby VillaJ100 » Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:04

L Sanchez MD wrote:
VillaJ100 wrote:
L Sanchez MD wrote:Watch Niculescu right now if you want. She's slicing at least 30% of her forehands (with one hand, not like Santoro with two).

It's not pointless :D Just unusual. She's up a break in the 3rd against Cornet... must be doing something right!


Haha, pffft what are these coaches teaching these days. Although it is sometimes fun to watch a junkballer, just because you never know whats coming next. Dog is probably the closest to that around today. If you wanna be at the very top of the game though its pretty poor as a strategy goes, Santoro was just a freak. Brad Gilbert has a good book about just dogging it in a match, called 'winning ugly', worth a read.

Thinking about it it does show how far tennis has come on. 20 Years ago you could have done well with just a slice backhand.


I actually prefer the variety to players who just hit hard topspin shots off both wings.
And yeah, I have the Gilbert book.

That said, I don't like out-and-out junkballers with nothing else, or pushers, but I like the variety.


I would prefer variety with the topspin guys, big flat hitters (who REALLY hits flat now?) Net play guys etc, and yeah even the slicers have their place.

Haha if you was to be hard on Gilbert you could argue that, but I think the point of the hook is he beat most of his GOAT-candidate peers despite being much more limited in talent, but by having a way to win, which yeah mainly involved chopping the ball back until the other guy missed lol... its basically a exercise in how to play to get your opponent out of their comfort zone, whoever they might be, which will increase your changes of winning against a more talented opponent.
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Postby KluddKalle » Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:47

Yeah, that's about what I tried to say. ;)

I played a ton of guys like that this fall in league play. It was horrible. Maybe 2/3 of all players was like that. I got bored out of my mind...and destroyed even though I was the one constructing points. :P
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Postby emate007 » Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:35

VillaJ100 wrote:
BTW they should just do away with a FH slice animation. Seriously, the shot does not exist.


I'm no pro, but I hit a lot of fh slices as approach shots off slower high balls coming from cross court. In real life. Really effective no matter how deep it lands if there's enough bite on it.
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Postby Moralspain » Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:03

VillaJ100 wrote:BTW they should just do away with a FH slice animation. Seriously, the shot does not exist.


That shocked me too, this proves that this is just an old demo, it's impossible they release that game, without slice slice animation, Djokovic hitting one handed backhand..come on! the world is crazy!!??
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Postby KluddKalle » Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:31

I've said it before but it needs to be said again: the animation of the one handed backhand looks fantastic. :D

Since I always create players with on handed backhands I couldn't be more happy.
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Postby VillaJ100 » Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:17

My lobbing is way inferior to my opponents. Theirs always hits the baseline, mine puffs up for a simple smash. Also the difficulty jump from amateur to pro is too harsh. Also, when the cpu is at the net, 9/10 times the point is over... and these aren't even net players (but they attack more in one 6-game match than they probably will in the whole of the oz open) :shock:
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Postby VMoe86 » Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:28

Here my updated impressions:

I was really disappointed with the demo, I even deleted the demo and already thought about selling my Move equipment. But I am a persistent guy and gave the demo a second shot, downloaded it again Sunday night. The charging of shots with Move annoyed me at first, but now I have found out you don't even have to charge your shots with Move. There are some kind of Control Shots, which are less powerful but can be executed more quickly and dynamically just like in GST.

Also net game isn't that overpowered as it appeared first. When playing at the net yourself good timing is essential to put away the volley.

Playing aggressively, a bit more inside the court, will result in some net hits or very/too rarely a cross court shot going out.

My last matches I've won 3-0, 3-0, 3-0, 3-0 with Djokovic against Nadal on Superstar and in the last match Nadal approached the net 19 times, but in the other matches I've been able to keep that stat down to 11 or 12 approaches.

Will be buying the game and hope that the online part will deliver. I think that Move users will have advantages regarding angles and placement of shots in general, maybe some slight disadvantage regarding shot type. My game with either Arcade Control or Total Racquet Control is horrible.
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Postby Julius Jackson » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 02:04

4 console doubles was never confirmed, guys. people ON THIS FORUM discussed it 6 months ago in some thread. thats the only reference made to it in the history of the world.

the demo is 90% of what the game will be. anyone who plays EA games knows this. so dont expect great leaps in the retail.

but if you actually think GS2 is playable based on the demo, then none of the above matters to you because you are simply a blind, crazed, tennis fool.
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Postby o Sinna o » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:11

:lol: ähm ok ^^
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Postby o Sinna o » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:17

But one is for sure. I am talking about it and only watched the Demo Gameplay.

I'll give the Game a Chance for sure and buy it.
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Postby Otlichno » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:43

4 console doubles was confirmed.
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Postby o Sinna o » Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:38

Ok I couldn't resist Guys and gave it a Try one hour ago.

I would say the Animations need some serious Tweaks. You know I don't need Signature Shots of the Pros even if they would be a nice plus, but default good looking Animations are a must for a Tennisgame these Days, and especially for the newest biggest Tennisgame in this Year. And GST2 is clearly a big Tennisgame from a big Developer and not a independent Game like Dream Match Tennis.

Also the Ballphysics could be developed better in my eyes, but I couldn't explore the Ballphysics in full Range. So this Impression could fool me.

You know I am relaxed and will buy the final Game, but this lil Demosession didn't blast me away to me honest.

However the final Game will be, the real good Thing is that another big Developer cares about Tennis. Especially a big one like EA Sports. I have big hopes for the future because of this, even if the Game wouldn't convince me with this upcoming second Part.
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Postby o Sinna o » Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:14

Just tried it again. That what bothers me the most are really the Animations.

The Ballphysiks are maybe more great and deeper than you expect after the first Tries.

Also the Graphics are really crisp and nice.

But especially the Sliceanimation is no real Sliceanimation.

The Animations need some tweaks for sure. They just could be better.

But we'll see what EA has in the bag with the final Version.

One is sure, I'll buy it 100 %.
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