power more then 80 ruins the game

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power more then 80 are fair?

Poll ended at Sun, 27 Mar 2011 01:13

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no
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Postby baldmage » Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:24

i think the 90+ power problem could be fixed by making it so that the more point you put into your power stats, the stricter the timing is for your shots.
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Postby JJ_DUBZ_87 » Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:38

baldmage wrote:i think the 90+ power problem could be fixed by making it so that the more point you put into your power stats, the stricter the timing is for your shots.


That sounds good, and if you have topspin invasion your topspin shots are more reliable but not as powerful as your full-on flat shots.
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Postby djarvik » Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:03

I have a simpler solution, something that can be quite easily done with a patch.

Coaches should not only add points, but remove as well. For example when you get a coach that adds you 10 power, same coach should take 5 off speed and maybe 3 off reflex.

Basically, the more power you have, the slower and less mobile you should be. And coaches needs to reflect that.
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Postby JJ_DUBZ_87 » Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:47

:tu

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Postby Rob ITST » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 02:44

djarvik wrote:Coaches should not only add points, but remove as well.


Or, and this is really bugging me, they should change which coaches you get with different styles. If you already have a power baseliner, why should you get a coach that gives you more power?

To me, it should be the exact opposite: Defensive and S&V players should get power bonuses from their coaches, and offensive players should get defensive bonuses. The gold coaches should give you a more complete game, not make it more one-dimensional.
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Postby o Sinna o » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:01

djarvik wrote:I have a simpler solution, something that can be quite easily done with a patch.

Coaches should not only add points, but remove as well. For example when you get a coach that adds you 10 power, same coach should take 5 off speed and maybe 3 off reflex.

Basically, the more power you have, the slower and less mobile you should be. And coaches needs to reflect that.


And you call this a Solution?
The Finetuning of the Coachsystem and the logical effort to create a halfway working Balance was one of the Key-Points in the Development and you expect a Major Change in this Category by a simple Patch?
You Guys expect things which would make the Game probably rather worse than better.

Nothing against your Suggestions Djarvik but you are far away form being a Master-Brain.

By the Way you may not forget what a tiny tiny Part the ITST compared to the whole Top Spin Community is. Maybe we demand Changes which aren't required by the most Players. :)

If you create a real die hard Powerguy right now you have almost no Speed around 30-40 anyway. :wink:
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Postby AUSSIE_FABS » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:47

YEAH DJAR. Don't you know top spin is totally like perfect, duh.

Far away from being a master brain, never hear that sentence. I love when people learn eng as second language.

The problem is that they haven't really released a beta or anything to my knowledge so they jsut relied on in house testing and demo doesn't count because game usually gold by then anyway.
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Postby jayl0ve » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:53

AUSSIE_FABS wrote:YEAH DJAR. Don't you know top spin is totally like perfect, duh.

Far away from being a master brain, never hear that sentence. I love when people learn eng as second language.

The problem is that they haven't really released a beta or anything to my knowledge so they jsut relied on in house testing and demo doesn't count because game usually gold by then anyway.


I dunno if you're being sarcastic, but me too! Haha. It's great. Lots of sentences you would never dream of putting together, if you had learned English first.
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Postby o Sinna o » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:22

hehe :lol:

I just had a epic Match against a Guy called Tennis Mogul.

We played in the 2K Open and used both Davydenko.

The Result was 3:4, 4:3 and 10:8 for him in the Super-Tiebreak.

It couldn't get any closer.

Na because of the Topic. It was just my Opiion to Djarviks Suggestion.

Ofcourse TS4 is not perfect but it's very strong like it is.
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Postby VfBfan2009 » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:30

The biggest Joke is "Top Spin Invasion". you just have to press B the whole time and you dominating the rally. And no, its not because the opponent is the better player, he ist just better at pressing B. Those angles and longlineshots arent possible without TS-invasion...
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Postby o Sinna o » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:56

VfBfan2009 wrote:The biggest Joke is "Top Spin Invasion". you just have to press B the whole time and you dominating the rally. And no, its not because the opponent is the better player, he ist just better at pressing B. Those angles and longlineshots arent possible without TS-invasion...


Then take this Skill if you really think it's such a Advantage. This Game is full of usefull Skills.

Norberto H uses Top Spin Invasion. :lol:
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Postby Puttu puttuu » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:24

Rob's and Djarvik suggestions are the most productive ideas i have read on this forum in weeks.

@ SInna : I think it is great that you love the game and think it is a masterpiece ... that's cool . However, I can't understand why you put so much faith in the 2k dev team. You talk about Francois and co like theyare gods. You hold on to every single word 'Francois' said about perfect balance of styles etc... He was wrong ! Get over it ! :)

In my opinion , the results they get from in house testing is always going to be different. That's why a lot of games get beta versions that the public can have a go at !

It takes time to find a game's limitations. In otther words , can you please understand that some people have issues with the game and stop pissing on our parades .

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Postby jayl0ve » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:59

I really wish it was more like PC games where they release betas...

Well I haven't bought a PC game in maybe 10 years, but that's how they were when I played them a lot.
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Postby dombrfc » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:15

No more than speed +80 ruins the game.
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Postby djarvik » Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:19

o Sinna o - I never claim to be the mega-super-blockbuster-master-mind of anything. I know you disagree with me, and with another 100+ members here. They know it too.

I have nothing against power guys, I play with a power guy. I only seek balance. You putting words of other members in my mouth.

May I suggest to stop posting after every suggestion made (in this or any other thread) the same damn thing? It is getting to be old and it is also getting on my nerves.

Remember this, the Devs that you put so much faith into, feed of this website, feed of our feedback and ideas....TS4 is a result of that.

Do you like the game? ....than you should listen what others suggest to improve it instead of calling the opposition names and putting them down.

I have had enough of this.

Thank you for cooperation.
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