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[RainingAmoeba79]

LOL, the reason i do not like ir/ CPs is that nothing seems to work against it, cuz s and v gets burned by cps, and others get burned by ir.

[DarkTunde]

^^^

I said a similar thing thing about 2 weeks ago after my 2nd encounter against IR/CPS.

As an all-rounder, the setup seemed to wickedly take away, arguably my best strength - being adaptable. If I played from the baseline, death by IR, and if I tried to approach the net, I died to CPS,

LOL

[Immortal Strife]

Another sci-fic thing about the game that must be fixed is S&V players , once they come in at the net ( at middle ) you can't pass them anymore, whatever comes to them even if they are a few meter further than the ball , they are still able to hit it.
Its so unreal.

I completly agree, I want to be able to make passing shots with groundstrokes so I don't have to resort to dropshots and lobs the whole match-the game it just ugly when I have to play a s&v player, boring, and frustrating-cause it's the only way to be effective.

[C4iLL]

About s&v you can't pass them just because you're not good enough against a good s&v... Berson, Robin, Strategyguide or even Fedfan for instance, has passed me easily at the net...

Do not blame the game of your own insufficiency...

[RainingAmoeba79]

Yes, all this whining about S and V is useless. If you got beat by a S and V, it means you were not as good at passing as they were at net play. Simple.

[Rob ITST]

I've played a good bit as both a baseliner and a volleyer, and I do believe it's just a bit too tough to pass. It would be better if you could pass a little more easily, but not be able to dip the ball low so easily.

[RainingAmoeba79]

ya, the ball can literally be going full speed and land right at the net players feet, lol. But I think that most ppl have trouble aginst S and V because they have low reflex, and they cannot read serves and return well. That said, I think that some ppl like Norberto have found the secret aginst S and V.

[farshad]

About s&v you can't pass them just because you're not good enough against a good s&v... Berson, Robin, Strategyguide or even Fedfan for instance, has passed me easily at the net...

Do not blame the game of your own insufficiency...

It seems you don't get it, no one or atleast me! didn't blame the game because i can't pass the ball,im saying it is unreal when the guy is a FEW METER further and he still hit it.
volley is not an easy thing to execute , its very risky but in this game the story is a bit different.
we are not talking about people ability now.

[farshad]

Another sci-fic thing about the game that must be fixed is S&V players , once they come in at the net ( at middle ) you can't pass them anymore, whatever comes to them even if they are a few meter further than the ball , they are still able to hit it.
Its so unreal.

I've played at the net probably just as much as anyone on this game, and trust me, the passing shots are there. If you don't already try using a SV player, you will see the weak spots after a while of playing

very true

Okay,no problem , you say passing shots are there, im not as experienced as most of you so i believe it! BUT its still so unrealistic that no matter how low or powerful you hit and they can still return it back. i mean playing at the net is one of the most difficult thing to do in real tennis, and in most of times if you hit a good passing shot , you get the point( in real life) but TS4 made it so easy..they should atleast make it a bit more difficult to execute.

I think it is just because of your setup....... all rounders are verrrry weak against S and Vers, cuz they do not have the strokes to pass them, and can be outreflexed at the net.

Yeah all rounders are weak against SV players and so against anyother type i guess its because this game is not balanced! Fed is an all rounder...that means a lot! but not for 2K

[RainingAmoeba79]

Ya, well Fed has not won a major since Aus Open 2010............ I know what you mean, I tried being an all rounder too once....... this can not be exactly like real tennis. in video games, there will always be setups that are stronger than others...... all rounders are the weakest type in TS4, and you need to be much better than your opponent to use one successfully. Besides, you use a welch or I(R/ CPs setup and see how much easier it is to pass.

[farshad]

Ya, well Fed has not won a major since Aus Open 2010............ I know what you mean, I tried being an all rounder too once....... this can not be exactly like real tennis. in video games, there will always be setups that are stronger than others...... all rounders are the weakest type in TS4, and you need to be much better than your opponent to use one successfully. Besides, you use a welch or I(R/ CPs setup and see how much easier it is to pass.

Well yeah but that goes for him not being at his prime, age..and other stuff! he was an allrounder when he was unstoppable.
I agree! you should be much better than your opponent which is not the case most of times here in ITST,and there is a point that you simply can't get better and your opponents are all great too like yourself,then what option do you have?! nothing.
WT is fine though , but ITST is another story.

[VillaJ100]

I'm skeptical, i think SV has many weaknesses that can be expoited. One think i will say is, on TS3 the best SV player would nearly always lose to a baseliner of equal skill. And in ITST, a SV player would not have a chance of reaching No1, as even if they were the best at it in the world, a excellent baseliner would have an advantage every single time and usually win. Now, i think its different and SV players will have a chance. if the top ten looks like this:-

1. OBL
2. OBL
3. SV
4. DFB
5. SV
6. DFB
7.OBL
8. AA
9. SV
10 OBL

then the game would show a perfect variety at the top. If it got to the point where 5+ of the top 10 were SV players, we would have a noticeable overpowerment issue.

[C4iLL]

About s&v you can't pass them just because you're not good enough against a good s&v... Berson, Robin, Strategyguide or even Fedfan for instance, has passed me easily at the net...

Do not blame the game of your own insufficiency...

It seems you don't get it, no one or atleast me! didn't blame the game because i can't pass the ball,im saying it is unreal when the guy is a FEW METER further and he still hit it.
volley is not an easy thing to execute , its very risky but in this game the story is a bit different.
we are not talking about people ability now.

YOU don't get it. An average s&v player is easy to be passed. Every s&v i played so far are easy to pass, even with bad stats in FH/BH.

If you have difficulties to pass them : it's that because you're not so good, or you don't have the right character to do it or your opponent is really great..
Only great s&v can catch hard balls : and if they succeed to do that, it's not because it's easy, it's because they anticipate well.

S&v requires a lot more concentration, skill and placement than the over playing style. And even though you're at the top of this style, you keep loosing games against the best baseliners players. You'll win against average/good players (who will be frustrated) but as in the reality i think it's impossible to reach the top10 with that setup on ITST.

ps : and i just don't talk about the abusing passing shot skill which can be considered as a nonsense... (when llodra comes to the net in the reality, i don't see any players becoming something like a super saiyanjin)

[OuiMr BersonBANNED]

I'm skeptical, i think SV has many weaknesses that can be expoited. One think i will say is, on TS3 the best SV player would nearly always lose to a baseliner of equal skill. And in ITST, a SV player would not have a chance of reaching No1, as even if they were the best at it in the world, a excellent baseliner would have an advantage every single time and usually win. Now, i think its different and SV players will have a chance. if the top ten looks like this:-

1. OBL
2. OBL
3. SV
4. DFB
5. SV
6. DFB
7.OBL
8. AA
9. SV
10 OBL

then the game would show a perfect variety at the top. If it got to the point where 5+ of the top 10 were SV players, we would have a noticeable overpowerment issue.

In ATP , only Llodra as pure S&V player in the top 50.

[VillaJ100]

I'm skeptical, i think SV has many weaknesses that can be expoited. One think i will say is, on TS3 the best SV player would nearly always lose to a baseliner of equal skill. And in ITST, a SV player would not have a chance of reaching No1, as even if they were the best at it in the world, a excellent baseliner would have an advantage every single time and usually win. Now, i think its different and SV players will have a chance. if the top ten looks like this:-

1. OBL
2. OBL
3. SV
4. DFB
5. SV
6. DFB
7.OBL
8. AA
9. SV
10 OBL

then the game would show a perfect variety at the top. If it got to the point where 5+ of the top 10 were SV players, we would have a noticeable overpowerment issue.

In ATP , only Llodra as pure S&V player in the top 50.

Exactly, because the ATP isn't exactly balanced with regards to playstyle-variety.