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Postby o Sinna o » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:47

BTW even if the Demo was only created 4 Weeks ago. 4 Weeks are enough time for the Developers to change the Gameplay drastically.
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Postby tenjintenkai » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:37

o Sinna o wrote:Ofcourse I am not expecting much difference but I guess they know what they are talking about.


well thats exactly my point: they don't know what they're talking about. Don't forget that their main purpose is public relation and attract customers, not please hardcore fans. Ronnie is not even involved in developing the game. His job is marketing and promoting.
They'll say whatever they can (in a plausible way) to make you buy it. We all witnessed it very well with TS3. But of course it's pretty usual in the industry with lots of other games, even movies, etc. in fact everything that has a business purpose.

o Sinna o wrote:BTW even if the Demo was only created 4 Weeks ago. 4 Weeks are enough time for the Developers to change the Gameplay drastically.


My guess is that it took them from 18 to 24 months to make the game, starting from the TS3 engine.
Do you really think that they would "drastically" change the gameplay in 4 weeks? And why on earth would they release a demo without those changes which are supposed to be very important to sell the game? This is non-sense. I am just saying to not have high hopes for this because you'll be very disapointed.

I liked the demo and can't wait to play the full game. But i dont have any expectation that it'll be better than the demo gameplay-wise... except maybe for a bit more unforced errors. Unless it is because the demo is a tiebreak and the characters dont have the time to fatigue and miss shots.
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Postby Otlichno » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:40

I just played the demo over at a friends house, I love it.

I love the on the run shots, at one point when I was Federer against Nadal I was pulled out wide to my backhand but was able to hit a huge cross court on the run, got a short ball and hit a dropshot for the winner.

I cannot tell you just how much better hitting a dropshot is in this game, I also love the fact that the little lob glitch we had in TS3 is no longer present, great job 2K Czech, cannot wait for the full version.
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Postby Amazing Matheja » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:41

I tend to agree with Tenjy here... about all what he said...
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Postby o Sinna o » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:54

tenjintenkai wrote:
o Sinna o wrote:Ofcourse I am not expecting much difference but I guess they know what they are talking about.


well thats exactly my point: they don't know what they're talking about. Don't forget that their main purpose is public relation and attract customers, not please hardcore fans. Ronnie is not even involved in developing the game. His job is marketing and promoting.
They'll say whatever they can (in a plausible way) to make you buy it. We all witnessed it very well with TS3. But of course it's pretty usual in the industry with lots of other games, even movies, etc. in fact everything that has a business purpose.

o Sinna o wrote:BTW even if the Demo was only created 4 Weeks ago. 4 Weeks are enough time for the Developers to change the Gameplay drastically.


My guess is that it took them from 18 to 24 months to make the game, starting from the TS3 engine.
Do you really think that they would "drastically" change the gameplay in 4 weeks? And why on earth would they release a demo without those changes which are supposed to be very important to sell the game? This is non-sense. I am just saying to not have high hopes for this because you'll be very disapointed.

I liked the demo and can't wait to play the full game. But i dont have any expectation that it'll be better than the demo gameplay-wise... except maybe for a bit more unforced errors. Unless it is because the demo is a tiebreak and the characters dont have the time to fatigue and miss shots.


I wanna see huge Improvements or I will put the Game in the Microwave. :lol:

No I am just kidding. All what you said made Sense but why should I don't believe them if they said they made Improvements after finishing the Demo. I am not talking about major Changes and that the final Version feels completely different.

Anyway we know alot about the Game now and it will be great so soon its out.
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Postby Moralspain » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:03

fed up of playing the damn tie-break
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Postby o Sinna o » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:03

And by the Way, say what you wanna say. But these Freaks and Developers did a great Job. There was no Tennisgame before that brought the real Pros so realicstic on the Screen like Top Spin 4. You see it in the Demo if you watch the CPU on hard playing Nadal or Fed or you saw it in the Gameplayvid between Murray and Agassi. And that I am saying however you agree to the Attributes from the Pros.

The Game is more ingenious than some Guys may think. But the real and true experience is in front of us and comes with the Release of this Masterpiece.
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Postby o Sinna o » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:18

Haha Serena is a Beast man. I am a Idtiot and played all my over 15 Matches until yet only with Federer. Haha I already love her. I made two Aces in the first Match I used her against Nadal. I am impressed about the Styles.
I am impressed about Serenas Serve and her offensive Baselineplay.
I almost beated Rafa 7-0 in the last Match but I made a unforced Error and only won 7:1. Haha that's the easy way to deafeat this nerving Rafa.
Haha so cool the Game I love it. Ingenious, that's all I gotta say.
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Postby Jason Fernandes » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:29

Making Serena better than the men is just aweful!

Something I noticed, no ball bouncing before the serve? :|
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Postby dahltennis » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:13

HEY EVERYONE! Maybe this has already been posted but for those of you who haven't experienced it yet, if you hit a ball that hits the net and lands short, so that your opponent cannot reach it, your player raises their hand to apologize!!!!!!!! It's so awesome, I can't believe they incorporated not only a variety of net cords, but also animations to go with them :D
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Postby Jason Fernandes » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:23

dahltennis wrote:HEY EVERYONE! Maybe this has already been posted but for those of you who haven't experienced it yet, if you hit a ball that hits the net and lands short, so that your opponent cannot reach it, your player raises their hand to apologize!!!!!!!! It's so awesome, I can't believe they incorporated not only a variety of net cords, but also animations to go with them :D
Good call, and yeah it's awesome! :D I love how sometimes one player applauds the other after a great point as well though, so amazing!
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Postby Digitalboyy » Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:44

o Sinna o wrote:And by the Way, say what you wanna say. But these Freaks and Developers did a great Job. There was no Tennisgame before that brought the real Pros so realicstic on the Screen like Top Spin 4. You see it in the Demo if you watch the CPU on hard playing Nadal or Fed or you saw it in the Gameplayvid between Murray and Agassi. And that I am saying however you agree to the Attributes from the Pros.

The Game is more ingenious than some Guys may think. But the real and true experience is in front of us and comes with the Release of this Masterpiece.


People complain about the smallest things, it's crazy. :roll:
I don't care if you never make an unforced error and Serena hit a 145mph ace. Who uses the pros anyway? We got a TopSpin 4 with a deeper career mode and that's what we've been waiting on for like the last 2yrs. *and NO RISK SHOTS*
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Postby VillaJ100 » Thu, 03 Mar 2011 02:04

On a lot of my SV shots im struggling to get to the net quick enough to hit a volley, im having to hat a half volley chip thing. is anyone else finding this?
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Postby Mack2300 » Thu, 03 Mar 2011 03:35

Jason Fernandes wrote:
dahltennis wrote:HEY EVERYONE! Maybe this has already been posted but for those of you who haven't experienced it yet, if you hit a ball that hits the net and lands short, so that your opponent cannot reach it, your player raises their hand to apologize!!!!!!!! It's so awesome, I can't believe they incorporated not only a variety of net cords, but also animations to go with them :D
Good call, and yeah it's awesome! :D I love how sometimes one player applauds the other after a great point as well though, so amazing!


I would not want my player to applaud the opponent's great shot though :P I would prefer to see my player muttering some four-letter word under his breath instead :lol:

Anyway, played the demo for a while again earlier on and I just cannot hit near the lines at all. All my shots are landing quite central in the court. Looks like I'm gonna suck :(
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Postby djarvik » Thu, 03 Mar 2011 03:53

Mack, try not to fill the charge meter all the way. Try to fill it exactly half way, that should do the trick. ;)
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