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Stop locking every thread. :D

Postby Ary1g » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:12

I never get the chance to respond. :( I'm being bullied! :(
Btw Djarvik. The latest poll has run for 1 and a half days. Barely any time at all for people not very active in the forum to use their vote. It didnt even get a chance to unfold. If we should always follow the poll, then my first post should have been taken into effect. Why is that poll any different from the last one?

Also give me some examples on where I did not listen at all to what people where posting? The last thread I got incredibly much hatred toward my suggestion. NOONE of you in the management actually gave me much or any credit at all for trying to find a workable rule. You are no better than the others Djarvik. I have posted a lot of questions directly to you, which you have just ignored and not answered. Where are your posts where you listen to what I write and suggest? You're no better than me when it comes to not listening to peoples posts.

All I have done in my posts is trying to show you people how to look at the rule in different ways. Not one of you have been willing to admit the positives with my suggestion. All you have been talking about is the negatives and that it's not needed. Why are 68% of the answers on the first poll "yes", if it's not needed? Or can we only use the poll as an argument if it's favors your side and opinion?
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Postby Dark-Disaster » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:32

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Postby Ary1g » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:43

Also I think it's ridiculous that you lock a thread that have over 800 views in two days. That's more than many of the sticky threads.
If you can please open the thread and point out where I don't listen to people, I will address and show that I listen more. It's really boring that I have used so much time to try to find a way, which you in the first thread where positive to me doing. Hope you can open the thread and tell me where I don't listen and goes way out of line. I'm very interested in finding a way of discussing this with you. It's just to lame that you just lock a thread because I'm very enthusiastic about my idea. :/

Also I don't understand why moderators should lock threads that does not inviolate any rules(?).

What if I say that you are violating your own rule number 17?

17.) If you have any questions about any of the rules, please feel free to post them on our forum. Our members and staff are always happy to help new members.


Really it should say: "17.) If you have any questions about any of the rules, please feel free to post them on our forum. Our members and staff are always happy to help new members, except if they don't like it, then they will just lock the thread and ruin any chance of developement and discussion." :(
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Postby Ali-Iqb93 » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 19:17

Yea I don't think there is anything wrong if someone is giving any suggestions.. Only If someone uses personal attacks then that thread should be locked.. And yea I agree that limiting stats to 92 was a good idea.. if moderators recommend us to play sim tour to avoid any overpowered setups then I guess in game pro players are more balanced than sim roster so I don't think there is a need of sim tour to develop a balanced tour as pro players tour can serve the same purpose.. but if we want to enjoy a Self-created players tour then some stats should be limited to make it balanced.. Not all just a few of the stats
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Postby Robbin92 » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:00

Why dont you stop making new threads?

Problem solved!
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Postby Ary1g » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:20

Robbin92 wrote:Why dont you stop making new threads?

Problem solved!


Well, if a thread is locked you can't post in it. Thereby I have to make a new thread so that everyone can see what they're doing.

I'll stop making new threads when they stop locking them.
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Postby DarkTunde » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:29

This will be probably locked in due course.

I suggest you take the hint after your last 'Poll thread' was locked.
I used to think I was indecisive... but now I'm not so sure.
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Postby Ary1g » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:47

DarkTunde wrote:This will be probably locked in due course.

I suggest you take the hint after your last 'Poll thread' was locked.


What hint? The last poll thread was locked by irony. Which I in fact found quite funny too :)
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Postby Rob ITST » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:32

For the last time, because this is getting old, really fast (which is why I locked the first thread - I have better things to do than to keep saying the same thing over and over and over....):

At this time, we don't see any need for a rule limiting stats. I don't know why you can't wrap your head around that, but we aren't going to make more rules unless there is a need for it. That, would be ridiculous. Even if we did see a need, this isn't the way it would be done. Period. End of story. I'm not going to explain it again.

You've also been bordering very close to what I consider insults towards myself, Djarvik, and at least one of our hosts - I don't really care if you insult me, but if you say anything else negative about one of our hosts, I'll not hesitate to press for a permanent ban. Treating hosts with respect is something I take very seriously.

Ary1g wrote:I'll stop making new threads when they stop locking them.


No, you'll stop now.
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Postby RainingAmoeba79 » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:34

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Real nice poll optins you got there, buckethead
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Postby Dark-Disaster » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:46

I've looked at your posts and you are basically saying the same thing over and over again, just on a different thread that isn't locked. If you keep doing the same thing, you're going to keep getting the exact same result. It's not like Djarvik is going to listen to you if you keep bothering him with the same thing. At least revise your system and try again instead of debating a battle that you are obviously losing.

Besides, what's this poll/topic for? Hating because ITST doesn't believe in the same system you do? They have clearly stated that they prefer the system that is in place already (I agree).

If you still want to stick to your system, create a new website. :wink:
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Postby Rob ITST » Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:09

Dark-Disaster wrote:Hating because ITST doesn't believe in the same system you do?


That's exactly how I see it. We don't like his idea, so he thinks we owe him some sort of explanation (actually, an explanation that he finds satisfactory).

If you have another idea, feel free to post it. It just needs to meet two requirements:

1) You must prove it's needed. Not just a poll that shows 30 people think it is, but a good explanation. No one needs to prove it isn't needed, you must prove it is - an unnecessary rule is not something we are ever interested in.

2) It must be simple. Not just what you consider simple, but simple to anyone who wants to play here. If you can't explain it in one or two brief sentences, it probably isn't simple enough.

Even if I thought your idea was simple enough, there is one other big problem with it, which I will take the time to explain:

Welch can only be used with a level 19 player or less and can't have both wings exceeding 84.
Babb can't be used with more than two red and two orange attributes.
Claire Roberts can be used with a limit at 93 on reflexes.
Skippetrov can only be used with a level 18 player. (Serve 93)
Michael Kelly banned.
Remy Ercolani can only be used with level 18 player.
Rabari can't be used with more than two red attributes.


OK, once someone understands all of that, there is another obstacle - How do your remember it? Everyone would need to keep a cheat sheet of some sorts to refer to every time they faced one of these coaches. You see your opponent has a stat over 91. First, you must determine which coach is being used (it doesn't show this anywhere in the lobby) - you would have to look at their skills, and find which coach has those skills. Then, you need to look at the rules, and see which restrictions have been placed on that coach. At that point, many people would say, "screw all this, I'll just play World Tour".

We have always kept the regular tours as close as possible to what the game designers intended. Look at past tours: TS1 had one rule - no zero powered serves. TS2 had one rule - no zero momentum shots. TS3 had 3 rules - 40-90, no tramline serves, and no returning from inside the baseline. TS4 has 3 rules - no Monster Defense, no Peto Chesire, and no allowing your player to drift wide when serving. And, of course, all tours have a zero cheese policy. The sim tours are the place for more extensive rules, especially when it comes to character restrictions.

So, that's the end of this discussion. If something changes, and it is decided that a rule to restrict stats is needed or desired, we will let you know.
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