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Postby Norberto H » Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:05

I already thought for a long time about writing this post, and now, after your fight in the forum with Picachu, I think this is the right time...

First, this is absolutely NOT intended to become a hate/insult- thread!!!!!!

Everybody here knows, that you are an absolutely amazing player, so far I think you are even the only one, who is top10 in men's singles, men's singles sim and women's singles...

You have won 3 GrandSlams in women's singles, you had excellent results in any other tour you ever played, and you might have even better results in the future, if you go on playing...

You are one of the gifted persons, who would have the potential, to become an ITST-legend...

Unfortunately, in case you retired from ITST, so far I personally would not remember you as a real legend - much more than that, I would remember all your insults, all your complaints after those matches you lost against me (and if you are honest, you really complained after EVERY SINGLE ITST match you lost against me...), and I would not really remember you as a person, I respected as a sportsman. This is just my opinion, but I think many other members feel exactly the same.

To be honest, somehow I can even understand the way you act, as my behavior in the past (with reference to TS and ITST) was not so much different to your's...

I have to admit (and never denied this), that I am one of the persons, who are "addicted" to winning matches, I am playing for results and not only for fun (eventhough I enjoy a fun match more than a boring one of course - but winning matches still causes me most fun :D ) - I believe many guys who say, that they mostly play for fun, and that they don't care about winning or loosing - but I would not believe you, if you told me, that winning is not absolutely important for you :wink: ...

However, in the past (especially during my TS1 period) I was so extrem in my desire to win matches, that I completely lost my sence of reality - I knew that I was one of the best players, and everytime I lost a match, I felt like my opponent had been playing cheesy, that I had been unlucky etc. (that reminds you of someone :wink: ) - I even thought (and insulted him), that my all-time-nightmare-opponent Fred Belin (I pray he never returns to ITST :lol: ) "manipulated" the connection in some way.
In a nut-shell: I was a sore-looser :D

To be honest, parts of that behavior still come through sometimes (for example after my loss last year against Equitiesindallas, resulting in my famous "Equitiesindallas part1-2" threads :lol: , or after my FrenchOpen-final-loss against Picachu...), but mostly I think I am a fair looser nowadays.

I had to realize, that there is absolutely no sence in making luck responsible for winning/loosing matches - the more matches you play, the more you will have to realize, that you are lucky/unlucky in more or less 50% of your (close) matches - I had some very unlucky losses at the begin of the 2009 season, but therefor, I had an unbelievable streak of lucky wins at the end of the year (many of them against Equitiesindallas BTW, who, after having my problems with him many month ago, turned out to be a great sportsman in my opinion- whatever he did in the past, he always acted extremely fair after losing against me - both of us knew, that those 5 or whatever ITST matches I won in a row against him, could all have ended the other way round, it was really only about who was lucky in the right situation, and not who was the better player - I told him about that, but he said, that he thinks that I absolutely deserved those wins, and congratulated me after every single loss - without complaining even once about being unlucky...).

I felt unlucky after my French open loss against Pica because he lost connection at a critical moment in the 5th set of the match, while I was having a slight advantage - but then the same happened exactly the other way round in a match against Aceusam (he would probably have won the match without me loosing connection), resulting in my first SIM-title...

Also I don't think it really makes sence, to concentrate all the time, whether your opponent is doing something cheesy or not. So many times you loose such matches - eventhough you could have won them (no matter if your opponent is really playing cheesy or not), if you only concentrated on your own game, and not on your opponents "cheesy techniques". After I stopped concentrating on Fred Belins "connection-advantage", I was suddenly able to beat him...

However, before I start losing the thread completely, what I try to tell you is following:

If you want to be known/remembered as a famous ITST member/player (and I am sure you want...), it is not only your results that count - much more than that, you should stop complaining/ insulting after every single loss (especially after those against guys like Xohrum, who is one of the nicest, politest guys I got to know here on ITST, and who really deserved that one title (there was absolutely no need to overshadow that with your rude match-report, especially because it was his first title, while you already had a couple of them...)).

As a side-effect, being "cooler" :wink: ,might make you even more successful...

However, I hope that you will be able to change your behavior in the future at least a bit, otherwise there will be more and more members who will dislike you as a player as well as a person.

Cheers and good luck,
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:30

advice has been taken :wink:

I have been doing a better job with the match reports lately though :D
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Postby Baghdad Baghdatis » Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:28

Decent post that Noberto, and one that every single person on ITST should think about when they are playing matches and conducting themselves after matches.


Noberto is right Coolhand, you are a top class player, one of the best (i should know because of our match record :lol: ) but even though I have never had the pleasure of your post match gripes, I have seen :

- Unnecessary polls (usually straight after a match with someone, not very subtle)
- Many times I have seen 7-6 3-0 Equitendallas (opponent retired)
- Post match comments on ITST that are full of "I should of won" and "he played well BUT".

Now I am like Noberto, I play in ITST to win (and the fun comes playing the game at the same time and is even more satisfying if i work for the win). Thats not to say that when i play an exhibtion match against Anil, Specialist, Puttu Puttu etc that i do not get as much fun out of it than wining because I do. But equally when you loose you should do it with your head held high.

Even if you are fuming, feel like punching the TV, been shouting abuse at your opponent all match...

...just bite your tongue and say "wow close match, i really struggled with your game today, too strong". Trust me once you start with all the of this is becomes infectious and then it becomes natural because deep down when someone is really getting up tight and is shouting "cheat" or "why do that?" the translation is really "too good" in many circumstances.

Remember, you have beaten me 6 times in ITST with no wins for me and you know that gotta be hard for me to swallow :lol:
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Postby diesel501 » Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:44

I guess coolhand may have changed. We just played a fantastic sim match which I just about managed to win. In the back of my mined I was thinking what was his negative comments gonna be I even told my misses that he would probably send me an abusive message. But he threw me and was gracefull In defeat. It was a fantastic match and was glad it didn't end in ugly slagging match.

That's the thing when you get tagged with a type of behaviour people expect it from you. hopefully it's a new leaf turned, as norberto says a great player needs a great attitude to become a legand, you are a fantastic player and you where graceful today continue with that attitude and no doubt you will be a legand :wink:
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Postby MINNESOT AS » Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:57

i sure remember what you did to ME once coolhand, and that wasnt so great ! :(
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Postby AMAZING ZIZOU » Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:03

Coolhand's cool. He often overreact after a tough loss but always cools down after.
I've always had good relations with him. Even after his few losses against me, he was sore because he was the better player but not that much i felt. And it was always good feelings the next match even if it was shortly after.
He's a fighter who hates losing, just like you Norberto, so he just needs a bit more experience in loosing. Your post was the perfect thing to make someone think.
I don't know if he needs it but it is a real nice thread.
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Re: attitude

Postby Coolhand Texas » Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:12

MINNESOT AS wrote:i sure remember what you did to ME once coolhand, and that wasnt so great ! :(


what are you talking about?

I havent played you in decades so why you would go look up a pretty old thread?

Hell i dont have the slightest clue to what you are talking about?
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:32

maybe a old friend ??
isn´t MINESOT AS also knowed as ACEUSUM ?

so maybe this brings light into your darkness coolhand?
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:33

No I havent played him in a very very very long time. like i said i have no idea what he is talking about?
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Postby MINNESOT AS » Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:11

it sure is no big deal now, but surely you would remember that once we had to playa sim match and there was a mistake in my setup (2 extra stamina points). even though you noticed it before playing as you told me aftewards you let me play the match til the end and only as soon as i had won you told me that there was a mistake and that i should not get the win ! you fed me some excuses about why you had decided to play the match to the end to see how things would turn out lol remember now??
i then decided to let the host know about the situation and they issued a no match ...
so i hope this helped you remember. to my mind and even now it was an outrageously unsporting move on your part. you simply dont do that, dont you think?
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Postby GOA MASTER MDMA » Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:31

coolhand, that is hard -very hard.
i hope MINNESOT AS is wrong.
when its true what ACEUSAM said -than its hard tobac!
when you saw this wrong setup before matchstart - you have to stopp the match DIRECTLY !!
to say to your opponent :hey your setup is wrong -change it .
it needs just 5 minutes.

mean when you accept the setup and you start playing -than its very unsportmansship to wait ,and after loosing the match to do what you did.
to complain about setup.
mean come on .2 points on stamina is simply .....nothing.
at all he is weaker coz he loose 2 points to a somewhere more important stat like POWER
stamina is nearly a unnecessary stat in relation to fh bh po.

so when this is true - its not okay .

coolhand,i´m sure MINNESOT AS is wrong ,right?
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:54

dont even remember that one. It looks like some people just hold grudges over a video game. sad but true.

I would argue with you but seeing the situation is so old i cant remember a single thing about it, it would be pointless.

you know you felt it so important to go and bring this back up in a thread that was well dead, obviously you thought it was a big deal. Why the hell else would you decide to do it?
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Re: match

Postby Coolhand Texas » Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:55

MINNESOT AS wrote:it sure is no big deal now, but surely you would remember that once we had to playa sim match and there was a mistake in my setup (2 extra stamina points). even though you noticed it before playing as you told me aftewards you let me play the match til the end and only as soon as i had won you told me that there was a mistake and that i should not get the win ! you fed me some excuses about why you had decided to play the match to the end to see how things would turn out lol remember now??
i then decided to let the host know about the situation and they issued a no match ...
so i hope this helped you remember. to my mind and even now it was an outrageously unsporting move on your part. you simply dont do that, dont you think?


well if you told the host, then why be mad at me. I have no recollection of this situation.

Sorry for your holding a grudge this long over a sim match, dude move on.
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:01

I think this thread has reached its end.
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