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How do you feel about the rules of this tournament?

Very good
13
38%
Good
7
21%
OK
3
9%
OK
3
9%
Bad
3
9%
Very bad
1
3%
I don't like sim rules.
4
12%
 
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Postby Rob ITST » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:02

You gotta use high speed, stamina, fh, and bh. Something like this:

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Postby VillaJ100 » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:11

Rob ITST wrote:You gotta use high speed, stamina, fh, and bh. Something like this:

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people will abuse the speed because on ps3 you can have 55 speed and still move quite well.
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:31

Rob ITST wrote:You gotta use high speed, stamina, fh, and bh. Something like this:

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Thats what i should use, but i wanted to try to play a realistic hewitt, and there is no way that his backhand is 90
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:40

I would disagree a bit with Rob on counter puncher setup. Most of them are good, solid returners, they make you play each ball and it is hard to ace them.

So here is my suggestion for counter puncher:

FH 85
BH 75
Serve 50
Return 85
Volley 50
Power 65
Speed 80
Stamina 70

Return to opponent weaker side most times. Mix in a little bit of risk.
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Postby Coolhand Texas » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:57

Thats a good counter puncher setup but with evrybody being able to retrunt with 50, you would most likely get broken a lot
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Postby Rob ITST » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:01

djarvik wrote:I would disagree a bit with Rob on counter puncher setup. Most of them are good, solid returners, they make you play each ball and it is hard to ace them.

So here is my suggestion for counter puncher:

FH 85
BH 75
Serve 50
Return 85
Volley 50
Power 65
Speed 80
Stamina 70

Return to opponent weaker side most times. Mix in a little bit of risk.


2 reasons I don't agree:

Speed should be 90. If your weapon is going to be getting everything back, you need max speed.

I think 65 power and 50 serve will get attacked way too much.
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:13

@Coolhand Texas
Keep in mind, this is a SIM, so there will be a weaker wing to serve to, so risk returning will be harder and will not be as hard. :wink: I will show you tonight :wink:

@Rob
See above. Yes the serve will be a liability, but your asset is the returns. I am sure someone like Chederer, Coolhandtexas, Swifty ( a number of others too) will do just fine with these setups. Just need to be smart about your serve and pressure on returns. As for speed. 80 is enough. It is funny how the best defenders now in 40-90 all use 80 or below :wink: Combined with 70 stamina I am confident it is enough.

If your weapon is going to be getting everything back, you need max speed.

This is a "pusher" setup. :wink: A counter puncher does just that - "counter punching". Get the rally going and wait for the opening, work the rally, vary the depth of the ball, spin.

Well, both setups are effective really.
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Postby ccbrwn012BANNED » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:33

Can we still use a pro?
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Postby djarvik » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:39

ccbrwn012 wrote:Can we still use a pro?

Yes.

For this tournament we can still use the Pro. But keep in mind, the tournament was designed to try different "setups". So I suggest do try. :wink:

If the SIM tour comes, it is still undecided if we will allow Pros. Right now, it is testing ground....no points win or lose....so I recommend to everyone to do just that, test.
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Postby ccbrwn012BANNED » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:03

what is an example of a power setup?
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Postby Chederer » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:40

Coolhand Texas wrote:
Rob ITST wrote:You gotta use high speed, stamina, fh, and bh. Something like this:

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Thats what i should use, but i wanted to try to play a realistic hewitt, and there is no way that his backhand is 90


actually dude...hewitt probably does deserve 90 on bh; he just lacks power---he has one of the best backhands of ALL TIMES!!!
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Postby Chederer » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:42

ccbrwn012 wrote:what is an example of a power setup?


power set up

fh79 vol50
bh69 pwr90
srv60 spd90
ret50 stm72....thats just an example---you could alter the fh and bh its just one wing has a max of 69 and the other has a max of 79...does this help you out?
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Postby fedfan » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:48

Well I'm using Berdych.
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Postby Chederer » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:54

CHEDERER wrote:
ccbrwn012 wrote:what is an example of a power setup?


power set up

fh79 vol50
bh69 pwr90
srv60 spd90
ret50 stm72....thats just an example---you could alter the fh and bh its just one wing has a max of 69 and the other has a max of 79...does this help you out?


or you could use lower speed and more serve like this

fh79 vol50
bh69 pwr90
srv77 spd75
ret50 stm70---------i think this is more of a power set up
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Postby Chederer » Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:55

fedfan wrote:Well I'm using Berdych.


dude....create a player...its not that difficult its just restrictions on fh bh pwr...out of the 3 of those one must be a max of 90 and the others a max of 79 and 69
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