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Postby ANILTJE » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:15

SoundfSilence wrote:Ok, the strongest players IMV are:

1: Bishop - Combined FH, BH, PW is 228 (2nd highest), Decent Speed. Excellent return.. Only weakness is serve, so against a good returner he will get broken, but he will create many chances to break.



Played Matheja , he played Bishop but I could deal with him better then when he played M. Lorenz.

He is maybe just a little too slow at times and and too little power.

I should test him myself a bit more. But it's a good setup anyways.

Well all of them are lol.
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Postby Amazing Matheja » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:16

ANILTJE wrote:...
But my opponent Matheja didn't have power hitters....

True! LOL...I didn't even notice they were low power...
I must try more powerfull player...
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I found you were better with the 2nd player (Serve) (so it was Bucci) ;)
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:21

Bishop should be a beast on returns games. With 81 return and high strokes he should be able to eat up slow servers. But he will struggle against Big Servers as his power is relatively low and his serve is low. So his nightmare match up is Bashmakov :lol: Unless someone can provide with a proper strategy for Bishop to deal with Bashmakov???
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Postby ANILTJE » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:23

djarvik wrote:Bishop should be a beast on returns games.


I think his speed will be his biggest problem. But like I said it need to test him a bit more.


Speed does help with reacting on returns.
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Postby Rob ITST » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:23

Vieira151 wrote:Let me guess who came up with the names. I see Gregory House(DJ), Nikki Sixx(Mötley Crüe?), Hiro Nakamura(Rob :roll: )


We each named four of the characters (myself, Anil, Djarvik, and Cro). Mine were: H. Nakamura (Hiro from Heroes), G. Gray (Gabriel Gray, better known as Sylar and the guy in my avatar), and T. Striker (Ted Striker from the Airplane movies :lol: ).

N. Sixx has a bit of a story behind him. He was the last player added and the most debated one. He was added after all the other names were given, and was referred to as "number 6" in most of the discussions (he was the sixth player on a long list of possible characters). So we would never forget the work we put in, and the headaches caused by "number 6" - we decided to call him N. Sixx. The similarity to Nikki Sixx is just a bonus.

Anyway, I hope I didn't bore anyone with that.

And glad to see that the response is very positive. We certainly believe we have something good here, but I never imagined that so many people would be so open minded about it.
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Postby Baghdad Baghdatis » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:29

djarvik wrote:to petrelli83: I have tested Bucci and he seems fast. I think the combination of 68 speed and 90 stamina makes for a very fast, responsive player. Changing direction is a piece of cake and like energizer bunny he just keeps going. Got nice power in 75 too.


Baghdad Kebab - thank you man, we really poured our soul into this one and really spend a lot of our personal time doing it, arguing, making sure in is all balanced.

I agree about Bashmakov being a strong guy there. But, as you said, in the right hands. Not only the player has to serve well, he has to move well. Bashmakov is slow, so if your movement is not efficient and you come across someone who can consistently returns the ball and gets into rallies, it will be tough.

It is important that we all try and test setups. We should all try and test the players that are "the strongest" as well. Simply to confirm. Like Baghdad said, "in the right hands" - which to me says that the Right Hands player is actually a good player and fit for a setup, rather then setup itself being too strong.


Don't mention it dude, the praise is all down to you guys (the creators).

Right, the nerd that i am i saw the new SIM setups and I have already created and test driven Barry Cannon!!

I have got to tell you i love him. I beat Didine17 6-2 (with his normal SIM) and TheSpecilaist also created and low and behold he was B Cannon too! We both coincedently changed our FH and BH around so BH was 87 & FH 51, i won 6-2, 7-6 but the scores are not important, this is what i found...

The low down:

FH 51 - a very low stat and one that i was intrigued to try (concerned but intrigued) and found it very managable - I was able to time the ball well and whilst it did not create opportunities for me i was able to defend well with it and return ok - i even tried and hit a couple of risk winners with it. Also the topspin shot (B) corss court worked ok if picked it up low and flicked it across the court.

BH 87 - well what can i say, this stat makes me very dangerous as I can hit winners from anywhere and it favours my famous defensive slice with LT or RT or RT+LT .

Serve 81 - I am a big server mix up with flat, kick and slice, this is the perfect stat for me

Return 65 - my last guy had 78 but i was just being greedy, i think 65 was more than sufficient to return well, and whilst not a massive asset it does its job very well

Volley 62 - i occasionally like to come to the net to kill off a point or mix it up and I hit a couple of volleys with good success, much more control and a stat i would usually have at 40 (90/40) or 50 (old SIM). It may help my current learning of S&V too :)

Power 86 - again a strong stat and as I am not a big risker (like say noberto or equits) so this will suit me well

Speed 58 - now this was a stat that I thought I would really struggle with, but it wasn't!! My movement around the court is usually pretty good and my previous guys have never had a stat above 75 or summit so a jump down, but not too much. I think if you play someone who is really good and throws you around the court then i might struggle to put a racket on it in the end but if i control the points it won't cause too much of an issue

Stamina 70 - ahh how satisfying it is to have this as a high stat - again never had above 40 or 50 but this will help me in the long rallies, thats if my speed allows it. I hope to start to see the benefits of this as i go go on.

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Postby SoundfSilence » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:32

djarvik wrote:Bishop should be a beast on returns games. With 81 return and high strokes he should be able to eat up slow servers. But he will struggle against Big Servers as his power is relatively low and his serve is low. So his nightmare match up is Bashmakov :lol: Unless someone can provide with a proper strategy for Bishop to deal with Bashmakov???


You don't need power to return though.. If Bishop finds a rhythm (i.e. guesses the right way) against Bashmakov, a nice short angled top spin is enough (no power required).

This is great though, so many possible matchups. Gets you thinking. I'd like to see a high Speed / Stamina combination though, as Viera already mentioned (a toned down Nadal).
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Postby ANILTJE » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:33

Thomson is the fastest in that regard.
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Postby Rob ITST » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:36

Baghdad Kebab wrote:Speed 58 - now this was a stat that I thought I would really struggle with, but it wasn't!! My movement around the court is usually pretty good and my previous guys have never had a stat above 75 or summit so a jump down, but not too much. I think if you play someone who is really good and throws you around the court then i might struggle to put a racket on it in the end but if i control the points it won't cause too much of an issue


You hit the nail on the head there. The speed is certainly a weakness if your opponent can exploit it. But on the flip side, you can hide it by controlling the points.
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Postby fedfan » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:02

Lopez is a good fail safe option. Well balanced and easy to use with the one money shot. I'm not feelin the Gray character but want yo test him against a strong server to see if I feel the burn on return with the 90 stat. Returning hasn't been my strongest dept so a high stat there might be wasted on me.
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Postby Chederer » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:26

im going to create nakamura---anyone want to play tonight 3:30am CET? im sure ill find someone....everyone will probably be on testing the set ups...i think i will go with my natural strengths in the game my forehand and my return---sooo i would probably just swap the fh/bh on nakamura--ohhh do we have to make nakamura look asian?

heres my top 5 choices

#1 Nakamura
#2 Lopez
#3 Thompson
#4 Johnson
#5 Bishop
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Postby djarvik » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:34

CHEDERER wrote:im going to create nakamura---anyone want to play tonight 3:30am CET? im sure ill find someone....everyone will probably be on testing the set ups...i think i will go with my natural strengths in the game my forehand and my return---sooo i would probably just swap the fh/bh on nakamura--ohhh do we have to make nakamura look asian?

heres my top 5 choices

#1 Nakamura
#2 Lopez
#3 Thompson
#4 Johnson
#5 Bishop


Nope. You can make him look as you like. I like your thought process. I think we all need to rethink our approach for TS3 a bit. I don't think it is good to cover weaknesses as many do in 40-90. This is a totally different scenario. I believe that it is better if we pick setups to our strengths.

Also, there are plenty of players with high volley. Try these guys. I am sure that Net play WILL increase in 2010 SIM and investing a few hours in learning the basics could make net play the real "dark horse".
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Postby DarkPaladin87 » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:36

This looks very promising, a big thanks to all the people involved developing the setups.

I probably gonna pick Striker, the S&V guy

Although Lorenz seems a decent choice for me aswell because his forehand is pretty good (83) for approaches.

Im gonna test the new setups tomorrow, so I'll need a sparring partner which will be available i suppose :wink:
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Postby Chederer » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:37

i can serve volley pretty well with 55----i find it easier to approach the net off my backhand side though---
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Postby Rob ITST » Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:37

djarvik wrote: I am sure that Net play WILL increase in 2010 SIM and investing a few hours in learning the basics could be the real "dark horse".


I agree. That doesn't mean we will see a bunch of s&v players, but being able to come in and finish a point against a fast player will certainly increase your chances of winning.
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