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Postby djarvik » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:10

emate007 wrote:OK, tried a few players now, and my biggest complaint is speed. Why is 70+ speed such a rare commodity??


True. Honestly, we didn't want to take the "power dominated" tour and turn it into "speed dominated tour".

You have a unique style emate :wink: not many players are interested in Volley game. Its either SV or baseline, and you are right smack in the middle.

If I remember correctly, you were doing fine with very little stamina. Did you try N.Sixx, C.Lightman, N.Johnson? ....I think these are best choices for your style. Maybe I am wrong thou....didn't play you for ages. :?
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Postby emate007 » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:51

Only tried Lightman out of those 3, and I thought he was trash. I like Striker and Lopez a lot more than Lightman. I am interested in trying out Sixx, he's probably a good fit for my game. I used to play with around 50-55 stamina, but I like it closer to 70 now.

Played against Coolhand last night using Lopez against his House(I think?), and it was a lot closer than I used to get against him. 6-3 6-4 I believe, and the 4th game of the match lasted 10+ minutes :shock: .

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Postby VillaJ100 » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:08

played Viera as striker vs johnson, i won 6-4 6-3? unsure on the last set, was a pretty close game and i was volleying like a dunce, well to be specific wasnt volleying at all the ball was sailing past :/ but my serve kept me in it
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Postby Chederer » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:09

i can actually survive from the baseline with T. Striker...honestly i mean not for a long time, but i can rip some winners from both sides JUST EXTREMELY SLOW
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Postby VillaJ100 » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:23

CHEDERER wrote:i can actually survive from the baseline with T. Striker...honestly i mean not for a long time, but i can rip some winners from both sides JUST EXTREMELY SLOW


yeah i can too, its all about if i get a good return, if i can i can hang and maybe win the rally, if not ive got no chance as strikers too slow to 'dig out' points. i tried experimenting with clay, thinking even though hes serve-volley maybe the slower surface will give me more chance to get into position. it never worked :P
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:33

You might want to try and recreate Striker. Play around with different models and build/fat/muscle. Some models are better moving to net and moving in general. Some combinations of b/f/m will make you either stronger or faster.
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Postby Chederer » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:39

what does fat do? make you have more power in your shot?
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:46

CHEDERER wrote:what does fat do? make you have more power in your shot?


I think it does give a bit more weight to your shots as well makes less prone to falling back on some shots and returns, if that makes sense. He feels more stable on returns too. But you do become a bit slower and you do lose that first step on returns. The differences are minimal and in 40-90 we hardly if ever noticed them, but in the new SIM format, I think it is worth spending sometime and testing a few different models/builds.....the difference should be more pronounced.
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Postby Chederer » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:53

please explain what you think all three do

Build---

Fat--- all ready explained

Muscle---
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:07

CHEDERER wrote:please explain what you think all three do

Build---

Fat--- all ready explained

Muscle---


hmmm, I can't put my finger on exactly what each does but different combinations of these three seem to yield different effects in player movement and hitting. Add to that the stroke animations and there is more there than meats the eye. Certain stroke animations have a clear step forward after the shot, sort of step thru the shot. Combine that with the right Serve animation and the right build and you will have perfect SV player.
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Postby Chederer » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:12

i see...so maybe with my nakamura i need more fat to make up for my lack of power? i dunno, but i will definitely try some things out
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:20

I know that we all got accustomed to certain stroke animations, but I think it is time to revisit them and pick the ones more suitable for your SIM characters. For example:

If you have a relatively low speed, maybe you should not use a "compact" double handed BH but rather C one handed, to give yourself more reach.

Or if you are using a fast player with low power, use a more aggressive strokes to try and compensate for lower power.
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:41

For Nakamura I would pick:

Serve - E (Federer's) or D (Roddick's)
FH - F (the most back swing Soderling)
BH - A (compact and doesn't have a "step in court" follow thru) - if you plan to stay on the baseline thruout the match or C if you want to finish more at the net. And I would use 2H BH only here.

I would use an least 2 Fat or maybe even 3.

....and of course have a plan for the match, a plan that theoretically will work and will depend on your execution.

Go with it and win or lose you will know you gave it your best shot.

I believe most of us can come up with a plan of what needs to be done in any given match up, granted, some plans are better....but most of the time if you lose it is because you didn't execute the plan. :wink:
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Postby Chederer » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:45

i usually have a plan.....in my head i think i am more of a counter puncher...and to be agressive on my forehand side....but, most of the time i lose focus during the middle of the match and forget about "the plan"--my plan is usually to win--i change the depths a lot, but maybe i need to throw in some slow balls as well
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Postby djarvik » Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:51

CHEDERER wrote:i usually have a plan.....in my head i think i am more of a counter puncher...and to be agressive on my forehand side....but, most of the time i lose focus during the middle of the match and forget about "the plan"--my plan is usually to win--i change the depths a lot, but maybe i need to throw in some slow balls as well



that is very true. As long as you place the ball well, speed of the ball is not as important. Even if the opponent puts away a few of these in a raw....I keep throwing them at odd times. It will ultimately start hurting his normal shots and in itself will be more effective.

I admit thou, that some people like Anteros are just too consistent, it is near impossible to throw them off. And god knows I try my best, short, long, risk, slow, slice, drop.....he seems to get all of them back with same consistently powerful pace. Amazing really.

In our recent match Ched, I had the most success when I changed the pace against you. Yes, in the initial stages you put a lot of these puff balls away, but at later stages of the match, it ultimately hurt your otherwise perfect timing on risk. Add to that a few net approaches and drop shots and it becomes a nightmare.
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