The Exhibition Thread

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

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getting into a point or a "rally" if you know what a rally might be....its actually quite fun in rallies...you have to think a little bit and judge your next shot....not just pummle balls all the time....but, its not "banned" i just find it very disrepectful and believe me i used to do it 10 out of 10 times when i first started playing this game....but i dont like to do it as much anymore....just when i need to or have an advantage in a certain game like if im up 15-40 on someones serve then yes of course i might take a stab at it.....or if im down 40-0 i may do it because i just want to get the game over with and move onto my serve.....believe me if everyone played that way you would find the game much more "euphoric"

come on ,only cause you change your mind about risk return -not all must change her mind now .
so what is your problem exactly ?
that the riskreturner missed every riskreturn?
that the riskreturner hit every riskreturn well ?
or that a risk returner not follow your "thoughts ,how to play ts3 "?
you can´t win matches with bad permanently riskreturning


i play not much riskreturns, but it is legitim .
same as to play permanently low cross slices or every other shot

[Chederer]

i just find it very annoying make or miss.....i would rather play pokerstars or watch my poo float in the toilet than play against a constant risk returner thats just my opinion though GOA....im just expressing it....that is one of the reasons that im burnt out on the game....because of constant risk returners

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

i just find it very annoying make or miss....

its up to you to serve in a way that your opponent missed all riskreturns

....because of constant risk returners

nobody do that anymore by itst , only a few player

[djarvik]

My opinion is that as a "Video game" risk returning can be real fun, you know this feeling of always wanting to hit hard! Shoot! Shoot for the kill! Sit on your opponent! Squash him like a bug! Break his arm! This is really fun! To me as well.....but I prefer to get these feelings not from a tennis game. I love COD , street fighter, even Halo!

For me personally, I want to play tennis. Returning a 145 serve with even faster return is ridiculous. But at the same time, since it is possible in the game....people will do it, I will do it. I certainly will not do it every time, even if I am successful....simply because it will bore me....I like rallies, I like tennis.

For the record, a simple deep LT can start a rally against ANY serve. And 80+ returning can be used VERY effectively with no risk. So there are ways, they may not be easier ways, but they are available if one choose to challenge himself.

If you are looking to WIN. Risk return every serve. Simple. If after a month of constantly doing this you still can't win matches, give up and play Halo.

Ideally I agree with Ched. For me, the most fun is to risk at the right time. like on 15-40 and next one at 30-40. Or for the whole game just to blow off steam or regain stamina after running so much. Risking the whole match has a LOT of benefits.....even if boring.

Bottom line is we will not convince each other what is "the right way". TS3 remains a video game - even we try very hard to treat it like a Very realistic video game, it's simply not realistic enough.

In conclusion, I have fun playing both styles....All Out Risk and Tennis SIM. I do get bored with All Out Risk game much quicker.

[Gunz Buz n LustBANNED]

This is referring to Chederers opinion btw:
If you want me to give up winning matches which means changing my game so it confines within your idea of simulation and non-boring tennis then youve got a different thing coming. If you or someone else would like to teach me a more effective way of breaking peoples serve or getting a better hold on their returns and even a break, espicially while they are serving both serves at 140mph, please enlighten me. Im happy to rally as well, but to hit a safe shot off a very good server, resulting in an easy put away shot over and over again just to please you or any other person that I'm playing more realistic Tennis is not my idea of the game. And tell me, how is it realistic when theyre are people including yourself who consistently serve above 85% over the entire match and serve at speeds on both first and second serves which require a risk in order to recieve any dividends? Its a matter of opinon but unless theres a better solution for returning serve against such people (which happens to be the majority), I dont see any valid reason why i should change my game, espicially when my kind of approach is a tough one to execute

[Coolhand Texas]

What chederer is saying is: he is in it for the fun of a tennis game, which most people do. What you are saying is, i play tennis games because i want to win.

2 very different opnionis, so therefore 2 very differernt styles

But my opinion is if you play a tennis game just to win only, well

[Chederer]

This is referring to Chederers opinion btw:
If you want me to give up winning matches which means changing my game so it confines within your idea of simulation and non-boring tennis then youve got a different thing coming. If you or someone else would like to teach me a more effective way of breaking peoples serve or getting a better hold on their returns and even a break, espicially while they are serving both serves at 140mph, please enlighten me. Im happy to rally as well, but to hit a safe shot off a very good server, resulting in an easy put away shot over and over again just to please you or any other person that I'm playing more realistic Tennis is not my idea of the game. And tell me, how is it realistic when theyre are people including yourself who consistently serve above 85% over the entire match and serve at speeds on both first and second serves which require a risk in order to recieve any dividends? Its a matter of opinon but unless theres a better solution for returning serve against such people (which happens to be the majority), I dont see any valid reason why i should change my game, espicially when my kind of approach is a tough one to execute

i actually probably serve at an average of 109mph on my first serve....i dont hit the bomb everytime.....also if you get a 140mph bomb you can actually time it perfectly without risk and hit a winner....but the timing has to be perfect....i was just beginning my supportive ideas about not risk returning because the day i bought the game i created a guy with 70's across the board...i signed on for my very first time and the first guy i ever played against was "snowflake" he was a stacked 100-30 player who risk returned everytime (it made me say to myself...well i must create another player)so, i did but, it still was not a stacked guy....then i played "hamburgerboy"...he was the one who first taught me how to serve from the tramlines----so i started doing that and i played "angusyoung" and he annhialated every tram line serve i put up....soo...once again i created another player completey stacked....then the next guy i started playing against frequently on WT was joesixtoe and he told me about ITST and playing fair and it all being about "realistic tennis" so, i therefore did not serve from the tramlines( and i have never returned inside the baseline--EVER), but at this point in time i still risk returned the hell out of the ball....just ask coolhand---i used to be all out risk on groundies and returns....i felt as if no one could beat me.....but, i began to get bored of winning in ways that were cheap and unconstructive. im just saying anyone slightly good at this game can risk return very well and can probably do it just about everytime if they practice it enough. with all of this said you can choose to do as you wish...but, there are plenty of other ways to win on your return game without risk returning everytime---and it will bring you much better times on the game and bring you more friends within the game---but as for me i may not be the nicest guy around but, i will call out anyone even a top 5 guy for playing risk return everytime

[EquitiesindallasBANNED]

guys break it up. No need to banter in a forum. Both of you are strong players. I maintain that as long as the ITST hosts have set the 40/90 rules, allow us the discretion to do what the F we like within those rules.

I respect players who have a weapon. The other day I got some lame insult like "i don't owe you any congratulations because you are not creative enough on court"....I mean wtf is this? Some kind of art school?

We're here to win.

[GOA MASTER MDMA]

you know this feeling of always wanting to hit hard! Shoot! Shoot for the kill! Sit on your opponent! Squash him like a bug! Break his arm! This is really fun! To me as well.....

with this TS3 NEED a MATURE 17 rating



i´m really happy that ITSTstart a sim tour now.
SO THIS DISCUSS COMES TO A END.

BTW : i don´t hope we start now a "what is allowed in sim discussion""

[Baghdad Baghdatis]

I reckon a solution to all of this is just to, errr, funk it, i aint got a clue...

...suck on a lollipop perhaps whilst playing to improve speed?

[Chederer]

anyone want to play me while i risk return you everytime? just let me know im sorry i just got a little emotional about the risk returns....it always seems as if some dust flies into my eyes or something

[jayl0ve]

Sorry what is "meh"? "My ego hurts"?

Players who risk return and do it well...kudos to them. Especially when the server is hitting 145mph every serve...(2nd serve as well)

My advice to all players who can't handle risk: head on over to the SIM tour and enjoy ball tapping in la la land.

Equities

No need to insult people who want to play something that at least slightly resembles a tennis match. and not Ping-Pong.

The way I look at it, the regular, non-SIM tour is like MLB baseball being played with aluminum bats.

[EquitiesindallasBANNED]

Chederer, yes I am up for it. What time?

[emate007]

you are not creative enough on court"....I mean wtf is this? Some kind of art school?

I'm not a fan of the costant risking either, but this is pretty damn funny.

[Fredz_x]

Sorry what is "meh"? "My ego hurts"?

Players who risk return and do it well...kudos to them. Especially when the server is hitting 145mph every serve...(2nd serve as well)

My advice to all players who can't handle risk: head on over to the SIM tour and enjoy ball tapping in la la land.

Equities

No need to insult people who want to play something that at least slightly resembles a tennis match. and not Ping-Pong.

The way I look at it, the regular, non-SIM tour is like MLB baseball being played with aluminum bats.